The personality of God.

[K.Snyder]

Originally Posted by Mickiel

Gods personality shouldNOT be judged by events in the bible that involved death. Because death means nothing to God, anyone God has killed or allowed to be killed, hes going to give them a better life again anyway.

So does this mean that God kills good people or that he rewards the bad people in which he's killed?...

[Mickiel]

Originally Posted by K.Snyder

So does this mean that God kills good people or that he rewards the bad people in which he's killed?...

I think God has done and will do both.

Peace.

[K.Snyder]

Originally Posted by Mickiel

I think God has done and will do both.

Peace.

Why would wicked people be rewarded?...I can't grasp this concept...

[Mickiel]

Originally Posted by K.Snyder

Why would wicked people be rewarded?...I can't grasp this concept...

Wicked people need Gods blessing to, and I think more than good people do. Wicked people will need more from God, just as mentality challanged people need more from us. God willnot reward their wickedness, he will forgive it and change them. And then give them eternal life.

I think any human who has experienced being personally wicked, will need Gods Love, his forgiveness, his Mercy, his Patience and his kindness, and ALL of these things are great rewards from God.

Peace.

[K.Snyder]

Originally Posted by Mickiel

Wicked people need Gods blessing to, and I think more than good people do. Wicked people will need more from God, just as mentality challanged people need more from us. God willnot reward their wickedness, he will forgive it and change them. And then give them eternal life.

I think any human who has experienced being personally wicked, will need Gods Love, his forgiveness, his Mercy, his Patience and his kindness, and ALL of these things are great rewards from God.

Peace.

So there is no such thing as hell then?...

And why would God make it possible for someone to be wicked yet reap the same rewards as the person who led the much tougher life?...

Seems to me by this virtue it would be more beneficial to be wicked considering there evidently is no consequences for peoples actions by this logic...

[Mickiel]

Originally Posted by Mickiel

Wicked people need Gods blessing to, and I think more than good people do. Wicked people will need more from God, just as mentality challanged people need more from us. God willnot reward their wickedness, he will forgive it and change them. And then give them eternal life.

I think any human who has experienced being personally wicked, will need Gods Love, his forgiveness, his Mercy, his Patience and his kindness, and ALL of these things are great rewards from God.

Peace.

And this is the type of mentality that I am talking about, the " Spiritual Human" tendency to search for reasons why WE think God should condemn others, and thus we create a place in our belief for the condemnation of others, which re-enforces false concepts of God, and what God is like, and from those concepts, we form opinions about God. Listen; the concepts we should use to form our opinions of what God himself is like, are listed in Galations 5:22-23; " But the Fruit of the Spirit,( Or what Gods personality is like), is Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness and Self Control." THESE ARE Gods Personality! Listen, THIS IS what God is like. These concepts ARE GOD! Therefore what God thinks and does are BASED on these Concepts. Hes not going to be anything that is outside of these concepts!

EVERYTHING that God does, ALL the ways that he thinks and perceives things, all the plans AND Judgements he makes, are based TOTALLY on these concepts, or PERSONALITY TRAITS of the Spirit! When he kills or destroys, it is always based on these concepts. When he judges a human, it will be done based on these things, and WILL RESULT in these things! And this is what we fail utterly to comprehend. We think God will judge based on anger or vengence, or implement things based on his wrath. Oh how this type of belief in God has destroyed our view of him.

God WILL Judge, God WILL get angry, God WILL destroy, but based on HIS ways and Means, he WILL rebuild, rebirth things better than they were before, he WILL forgive and ressurect the thing in a much better condition than before.

You see we tend to judge like this; You get one chance at life, if you blow it, you get no more chances. Where do you see those 9 fruits of the Spirit in that. Were talking about God man. GOD! God IS Love, you mean Love only gives you one chance at life? No, no, God is the HIGHEST LEVEL of Love possible and beyond, such Love WILLNOT condemn its own affection! God has a thing for us. He Loves us because he cannot help himself. He just is going to be Kind and Gentle to us, because its HIS habit!

And I want to get into that. Peace.

[Mickiel]

Originally Posted by K.Snyder

So there is no such thing as hell then?...

And why would God make it possible for someone to be wicked yet reap the same rewards as the person who led the much tougher life?...

Seems to me by this virtue it would be more beneficial to be wicked considering there evidentially is no consequences for peoples actions by this logic...

Well of course it seems like that, I agree with you, it just does not " Seem Fair." But you have got to take your evaluation of this OFF of human reasoning, and learn to consider how God is, not how WE would figure this out. God will put the last first, and the first last. What that means is he IS NOT a respector of persons, or he is not bound to human reasonings, he will do things according to HIS will, not our will, or behavior. Look at the parable of the prodical son. One son stayed home and remainded faithful to his father, the other left home and relished the sinful life. He " Came to himself" and came home. The Father was LOVING and FORGIVING, and welcomed the sinful son home. The father WAS NOT judgemental and unforgiving, he prepared a feast and was overjoyed at his sons return.

This is how God is. Oh but the faithful son was NOT like his father! He was mad and angry, jealous and unforgiving, he was thinking about HIS faithfulness. HIS obedience, yet here was his father accepting this knothead brother back with a feast. And so many believers in God have " Morphed into this brother of the prodical son aittitude." They don't want God to forgive, because it does not seem fair to them.

Salvation IS NOT based on the faithfulness of those who remain faithful, its based on the Father, and the Father ALONE!

We simply do not know the Fathers personality like we think we do.

Peace.

[K.Snyder]

Originally Posted by Mickiel

And this is the type of mentality that I am talking about, the " Spiritual Human" tendency to search for reasons why WE think God should condemn others, and thus we create a place in our belief for the condemnation of others, which re-enforces false concepts of God, and what God is like, and from those concepts, we form opinions about God.

It's called conceptual logic...

Originally Posted by Mickiel

Listen; the concepts we should use to form our opinions of what God himself is like, are listed in Galations 5:22-23; " But the Fruit of the Spirit,( Or what Gods personality is like), is Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness and Self Control." THESE ARE Gods Personality! Listen, THIS IS what God is like. These concepts ARE GOD! Therefore what God thinks and does are BASED on these Concepts. Hes not going to be anything that is outside of these concepts!

Seems a bit odd that God is construed by the characteristics of man...Aren't people supposed to be made in his image and not the other way around?...More like righteousness sums up all of that without the unneeded text...

Originally Posted by Mickiel

EVERYTHING that God does, ALL the ways that he thinks and perceives things, all the plans AND Judgements he makes, are based TOTALLY on these concepts, or PERSONALITY TRAITS of the Spirit! When he kills or destroys, it is always based on these concepts.

My God doesn't Kill or Destroy sorry...

Originally Posted by Mickiel

When he judges a human, it will be done based on these things, and WILL RESULT in these things! And this is what we fail utterly to comprehend. We think God will judge based on anger or vengence, or implement things based on his wrath. Oh how this type of belief in God has destroyed our view of him.

What's the difference between morale killing and destroying and vengeance? and if it's not morale then I believe your defining the overall accepted jurisprudence for Satan...And if you say God doesn't kill or destroy out of vengeance why does he do it?...Fun perhaps?...

Originally Posted by Mickiel

You see we tend to judge like this; You get one chance at life, if you blow it, you get no more chances.

No more chances?...What happened with the whole "God willnot reward their wickedness, he will forgive it and change them. And then give them eternal life."?...

Originally Posted by Mickiel

Were talking about God man. GOD! God IS Love,...

Now we have something we agree on...

Originally Posted by Mickiel

you mean Love only gives you one chance at life? No, no, God is the HIGHEST LEVEL of Love possible and beyond, such Love WILLNOT condemn its own affection! God has a thing for us. He Loves us because he cannot help himself. He just is going to be Kind and Gentle to us, because its HIS habit!

Not exactly how I would have described it but I understand your sentiment...

[K.Snyder]

Originally Posted by Mickiel

Well of course it seems like that, I agree with you, it just does not " Seem Fair." But you have got to take your evaluation of this OFF of human reasoning, and learn to consider how God is, not how WE would figure this out.

Originally Posted by Mickiel

God will put the last first, and the first last. What that means is he IS NOT a respector of persons, or he is not bound to human reasonings, he will do things according to HIS will, not our will, or behavior. Look at the parable of the prodical son. One son stayed home and remainded faithful to his father, the other left home and relished the sinful life. He " Came to himself" and came home. The Father was LOVING and FORGIVING, and welcomed the sinful son home. The father WAS NOT judgemental and unforgiving, he prepared a feast and was overjoyed at his sons return.

This is how God is. Oh but the faithful son was NOT like his father! He was mad and angry, jealous and unforgiving, he was thinking about HIS faithfulness. HIS obedience, yet here was his father accepting this knothead brother back with a feast. And so many believers in God have " Morphed into this brother of the prodical son aittitude." They don't want God to forgive, because it does not seem fair to them.

Salvation IS NOT based on the faithfulness of those who remain faithful, its based on the Father, and the Father ALONE!

We simply do not know the Fathers personality like we think we do.

Peace.

Well it seems the faithful son wasn't really faithful afterall...

[Mickiel]

Originally Posted by K.Snyder

Well it seems the faithful son wasn't really faithful afterall...

Well I think he was faithful, but he was " Other things" as well. Its the other things that I see in him. He was unforgiving of his brother. He was angry at his Father for welcoming his brother home, which is in essence being envious of the Fathers affection being directed at a disobedient son. He was " searching for reasons for his father to be like him", judgemental and strict. And the Father put him to shame as he displayed all the fruits of the Spirit in his display of Love for this sinful son. And I see modernday christianity as I do this brother of the prodical son, they are the same. Preaching this eternal hell doctrine and teaching that God will condemn all sinners and unbelievers. And christianity will be put to this same shame.

Notice Isaiah 45:24, this is Gods aittitude after he has drawn all of sinful humanity back to him;"They will say of me, Only in the Lord are Righteousness and strength, Men will come to him, and ALL who were ANGRY at him will be put to SHAME." Christians who expected God to condemn all the prodical sons of the earth, will be surprised and angry that God will forgive and welcome sinful humanity back to him, and throw a great feast for them. Their hell doctrine will be put to shame , and they themselves will be put to shame. But God Loves them too.

We all have so much to learn about Gods personality, and I want to go into that. Peace.