What is Predestination to God?

[Mickiel]

Originally Posted by Mickiel

In James 2:13;" For judgement will be merciless to one who has shown no mercy; Mercy Triumphs over judgement." This is what Predestination is, Gods Mercy. God has already decreed mercy for all of humanity, that IS his Judgement.

Peace.

Mercy and Goodness is what really drives Gods predestined will along the lines of his Righteousness. And God has Predestined Goodness for everyone. Certain humans just cannot believe this about God, really because they do not know God. Gods Mercy is what will Triumph all humans into the position of living with God.

The Judgement of God, IS Mercy!

Peace.

[Mickiel]

Gods Patience also drives his purpose in our destiny. His Patience is a backbone of his Predestined will. He is already a being who is beyond all other beings, so he knows he is in a class by himself, which is what he means when he says I am God and there is no other.

God is uncreated.

Unbossed, he submits to none.

Has no orgin, no birth.

Has no limitations, nothing can restrain him.


Can never die.

There is nonelse who is like this.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

Now I want to mention a most interesting thing about Gods predestined power, or his current will being intwined into his future will. Look at 2 Tim. 3:7, this is concerning ALL of us, there are NO exclusions from this;" Always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." Now the very first thing a christian will say who reads this, is that it was NOT written to mean them. That is not so, this covers us all.

We don't know what we are doing. Were always learning about God, something about him from someone who claims to know him, and they are only putting into your minds, what is in theirs. And you think your learning from God.

In an age of unworthy, untrustful leaders, why would God raise up a leader who was human? No God is not going to raise up a man or woman to lead, hes going to depend on his Holy Spirit to lead, and thats the ONLY way the end time church will function. Its not going to need a human leader.

Yet men mock the Holy Spirit everyday, by asserting themselves into leadership roles, then telling the people that God put them there.

Always learning, but never really getting anywhere Spiritually.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

Predestination is Gods confidence in himself, and evidence that he does not depend on humans to determine their own future. There is no future to God, there only "Is." God is, time is meaningless to him who has always lived and will always live.

He is the beginning and the End, or the complette cycle of time.

And everything that he does, will be completted in his time, meaning in that same day to him, because no day will ever end with God. Thats what Jesus meant when he told the theif on the cross that " Today you will be with me in Paradise". Well Jesus said that thousands of years ago, and the theif is still dead. But when he is ressurected, it still will be " Today with God." And this is a root of understanding what Predestination is to God.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

The sun, or Light, never goes away with God, there is no night with him, or a beginning of another day. No time passes with God. He IS the true source of light, and the true source of eternity, or time.. This is just hard for me to understand complettely. 1 year to me is a lot of time, there is no year passing with God. I lived in yesterday, and today, and I might live into tommorrow. God lives consistantly, and has lived constantly. This is why he is the beginning and the end of all things, because he controls those two extremes, and is not bound by them.

And this is what predestination really is, God simply knowing the beginning from the end, because he controls both extremes.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

I want you to look at something. Study this well and meditate on it. Jesus called his Father God something that I think is relevant. In Mark 14:62; Jesus told a high priest that he is, " I Am, and you shall see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of Power." Here Jesus describes his Father as " Power." Oh, how significant this is, Jesus describes his Father as " Power."

Sitting at the right hand of Power!

You see this is what God really is, Great, unmeasured, unstoppable Power! And I feel sorry for those who seem to think that a being like God cannot save everyone.

God is POWER! GREAT awesome unlimited Power!

And that Power is supported by his Great Love and Kindness, and THAT is what will impact all of humanitys future with God.

And that is the backbone of understanding predestination.

And I want to get into that.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

To those who have eyes to see, THIS IS Gods Predestined Power of his Will;

Isaiah 45:23, God swearing an oath to himself, that every single human being created will bow to him and confess him as Lord AND swear committment to him!

Thats it in a nutshell! Right there is the VERY meaning of Gods Predestined Will, and EVERYONE is included within it. ALL of humanity are predestined, or preassigned to this fate!

This renders ALL doctrines that seek to exclude any human for anmy reason, as meaningless and futile.

Resistance to Gods Salvation, Gods Holy Oath to himself to submit all humans, is futile!

God is running this thing, not us.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

Now let me show you a little more on Gods Predestination. I know there are doomsayers out there who post their doubts and their limited atonement beliefs, such is what their desire is. They cannot see Gods predestined will, nor understand just how Powerful God is. In 1 Thess. 5:9;" For God hasNOT destined us for wrath, BUT FOR the Obtaining of Salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. Look closely at vs.10;" Who died for US, weather we are awake or asleep, we will live together with him."

Do you understand what this means? It means God predestined Salvation to EVERYONE, weather they are awake, or aware of him and believe in him, or asleep, or they are not aware of God and do not believe in him! Its DESTINED, or PREdestined, for us all, no matter what condition we are in.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

[buttercup]

Is this a one sided thread or what?

[Mickiel]

Originally Posted by buttercup

Is this a one sided thread or what?

Well you must excuse me, I am not the kind of man that people wish to address, for various reasons. They choose to read, but not to speak.

I have grown accoustomed to it. A few break the mold, but not many. I think they sense that I don't crave conversation with others, but seek truth from God.

Strange thing is, God does not speak to me either. So the one sidedness seems to be my lot in life. It is predestined for me, I walk alone.

Peace.