What is Predestination to God?

[telaquapacky]

Originally Posted by Mickiel

Well you must excuse me, I am not the kind of man that people wish to address, for various reasons. They choose to read, but not to speak.

I have grown accoustomed to it. A few break the mold, but not many. I think they sense that I don't crave conversation with others, but seek truth from God.

Strange thing is, God does not speak to me either. So the one sidedness seems to be my lot in life. It is predestined for me, I walk alone.

Peace.

Hi, Mikiel!
But God does speak to you. If you spend a lot of time in Scripture and think about heavenly things, He is able to communicate with you through feelings and impressions, even if He doesn;t speak to you directly, verbally.

An atheist friend of mine once proudly told me he stole a Gideons Bible from a hotel room and he was going to read it and find out who God is (probably for the purpose of disproving His existence). I told him it doesn't work like that. First of all, you can't "steal" a Gideons Bible. The Gideons trust the power of the Word so much, they don't care what you do with one of their Bibles- they are a totally free, no-strings-attached give-away. Once my friend left the hotel room with the Gideons Bible, that Bible was an unconditional, personal gift to him from the Gideons. Secondly, man cannot discover God. The only things a man can know about God are the things God reveals to him, and God only reveals things to His friends.

John 15:15
I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master's business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.

1 Cor 2:14 14
The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.

[Mickiel]

Originally Posted by telaquapacky

Hi, Mikiel!
But God does speak to you. If you spend a lot of time in Scripture and think about heavenly things, He is able to communicate with you through feelings and impressions, even if He doesn;t speak to you directly, verbally.

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Greetings,

Well yes, I agree. But feelings and impressions are not evidence in and of themselves, its just circumstancial evidence, which may be enough to convict some, but God is not interested in the " Some", but the totality of all of humanity. No, God is totalitirian, complette, lacking nothing, and our comprehension is NOT like that! Its just not.

God IS the Alpha and Omega, the start and the finish, or the COMPLETTE CYCLE! God does not NEED our understanding to be complette, and our future is NOT based on anything in us to be complette. Its what Jesus did that is the complettion. In him we live and move and have our being, we just do not believe that, we think its in ourselves that we become complette, as if we are the alpha.

In HIM we live, not things invested within ourselves.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

In Predestination, all things are garenteed to the human family, it makes God responsible for us, and not we ourselves. Free will belief seeks to place the responsibility of salvation for humanity, on humanity, which is the reason why so many of us are messed up. Because we have accepted this false premise of self being responsible for destiny. Predestination is Gods way of being responsible for all things. He has already determined the outcome, already factored in all things.

Jesus death has been greatly underated and misunderstood, it was far more meaningful than most believers comprehend it to have been. Jesus was more powerful, his salvation determinant far more than believed. His purpose for comming was to save all those who are lost. He came for the sinners, not just the righteous. This reflects Gods Mind, Gods purpose for mankind. He knows what humanity is up against, and he has supplied complette coverage.

Predestination is complette coverage.

Peace.