Does God Help His Own ?

[Daniyal]

Let's Just Take A Look At These People Who Are Jews, Christians, Muhammadans, Buddhists And Hindus Who All Would Freely Say: "Thanks To Yahweh, Jehovah, Adonai, Hashem, Theos, Christ, God, Allah, Rabbi, Om, Krishna, Shiva, Brahma And A Host Of Egyptians Deities By Whatever Names You Call
Them, Such And Such Survived In An Earthquake? Can't You See That This Is A Personal Emotion? You're Not Considering All The Other People Who Died In That Earthquake. Not To Mention The Animals And The
Vegetation That Lived Are Also Cut Off. But That's Not Important To You Because Your God Teaches You That He's Only Concerned With People Of Your Religious Persuasions, And In This Case, Your Family Members Only. I Can't See A God Who Has Preference Like That. Now, Let's Take A Closer Look At The World And What Happens In It; And It Is Supposed To Be Controlled By God, Whose Ever God Is Responsible .

We'll Use The Word "God", Because Written In English So Don't Say That This Does Not Apply To Because My God Is Name '' Allah

[Daniyal]

Ans: Yes, According To Religious People By Which Ever Religion. He Says: "He Is Responsible For All Things (1 John 3:20, Koran 8:71)."

Koran 4:26

Allah Only Wants To Make Clear To You,
And Guide You All (The Ishmaelites), To The
Sunna (Traditions), The Same Laws Of The
Seed Of Abraham; Of Those Who Were
Before You (The Israelites), And To Cause
You, (The Ishmaelites), To Repent. Stop
Worshipping Idols. The Source Is
All-Knowing, Wise.



If God Is All-Knowing, All-Wise, Why Did He Say To Adam, In Genesis 3:9 "...Where Art Thou?" God Is Literally Asking Adam, Where Is He? Wouldn't He Have Known Where Adam Was, If He Is The All Knowing, The All Wise, God Almighty? In Koran 26:216 God, Or The "Allah" Of The Koran Quotes: "...That, Then If They Disobey Thee, Say: "I Am Free (Of Responsibility) For What Ye Do". How Can God Not Be Responsible For What You Do, When He Created You? If God Is Responsible For Everything, Then Why Would He Allow Catastrophes Like Major Earthquakes (Matthew 24:7)


Matthew 24:7

For Gentile Nation Will Rise Against Gentile
Nation And Kingdom Against Kingdom: And
There Will Be Famines And Pestilences And
Earthquakes In One Place After Another


If He Was The All-Knowing, The All-Wise, Couldn't He Just Have Prevented All Of These
Things From Happening? For Example, There Was A Recent Earthquake That Occurred January 17, 1994 A. D. In Los Angeles, California That Killed 57 People And Caused 15 Billion Dollars In Damage. Don't
You Realize All Those People Who Died Or Got Hurt Were From Different Religious Beliefs? Why Would He Allow An Innocent Person To^ Die A Tragic Death? Some Of Them Were Christians, Jews, Muslims, And Hindus Or Whatever Religious Belief They Believed In. If God Is Responsible For All Things, Why Did He
Allow Religious People To Suffer In The Earthquake? Isn't There A Quote In The Bible, "Thou Shall Not Kill" (Exodus 20:13, Leviticus 22:28, Koran 5:95) .


So If God Created The Universe, Who Is Responsible For The Earthquakes Taking Place? Who Or What Is It, That's Killing These People At Random, By Natural Disasters As Earthquakes (Koran 99:1, And Matthew 24:7)?

Koran 99:1

When The Planet Earth Quakes, With Her
Terrible Earthquaking.

Then There Was An Earthquake That Took Place In Calcutta, India, On October 11, 1937 A.D., And 300,000 People Died. The People Who Died Were From Different Religions, Such As Hinduism. The Followers Of Hinduism Are Called Hindus, Whose Word For God Almighty, Is "Pramatma." Atma Means "The Soul" And
Pram-Atma Means, "The Great And Holy Soul Or The Holy Spirit." They Also Call Him Brahma, Or Om, Supreme Being. They Have 33 Million Different Gods, Or Should I Say Demons, Who Are The Original Nephilim (D^VD3, Malevolent Beings). These Beings Fell From Grace, With Haylal Bar Shakhar
(Genesis 6:4 Isaiah 14:12); And Are The Original Inhabitants Of The Land Of Wanderers, Or Recreation, Called Nod (Genesis 4:16).


Some Of The Hindu Deities Are: Vishnu, Or Krishna Incarnated, Who Is The Preserver, Shiva The Destroyer, Rama, Heroes Of India's Two Great Epics, The Ramayana And The Mahabharata. After Hinduism, The
Second Most Dominant Religion In India Is Buddhism Whose Followers Are Called Buddhists. Their God Is Buddha, And Buddhism Is A Form Of Hinduism Without The Caste System, Which Was, And Is Based On
Varna (Color). Its Religious Founder Was A Hindu Prince Named f?Siddhartha Gautama", Or "Buddha," Who Lived In India In The 6Th Century A.D.


There Is Also Jainism, A Religion That Stresses Distinctive Behaviors On Non Violence And Asceticism; A Form Of Spookism Where Self-Denial And Strict Discipline Is Taught. Therefore, You Will Be Saved And Go To Their Heaven, Which Is Called "Nirvana." And Its Followers Are Called Jainists, Whose Religious Founder Was A Hindu Named Mahavira, A Contemporary Of Buddha Who Lived In India In The 6Th Century A.D., And Died By Starving Himself At Pava, In Bihar India. Let's Not Forget Islam, The Religion Muslims Adhere To, And Their God Allah, Founded By A Man Named Muhammad From Arabia In The 5Th Century.
Everyday You Turn On The News, You Will Find Quarrels And Death Amongst The 'Hindu1 And 'Muslim1 Communities Throughout India. However, One Of The Hindus' Beliefs Are Not To Kill Cows,


Or Injure Any Animals, Including The Nasty Fly, But They Can And Will Randomly Massacre Their Own People - Hindus Who Had Converted Into Islam Under Rulers Like Shah Jahan, The Great Taj Mahal
Builder, And Other Famous Mogul Rulers Of India's Long History, And Vice Versa - All In The Sake Of Religious Rites? Now, Why Didn't Brahma Of The Hindus And His Partnership Of Millions Of Deities, And Allah Of The Muhammadans Just Wave His Hand Over All Of These Religious People, And Good
People Who Are Killing Each Other In India For His Sake, And Prevent Them From Death, Misery, And Religious Rivalry?



Then There Is Christianity, And Their God Is Theos (tea Which Translates, "God" From The Greek. Some Say Christ, Which Came Down Through The Greek "Kristos," (Xpiaioq) Which Came From The Ancient Indian Language, Or Sanskrit Word "Krishna/1 Why Couldn't These Different Gods Of These Different Religions Help Their Faithful Believers Out Of Their Disaster? On September 21, 1985 A.D., There Was A
Huge Earthquake In Mexico That Killed Thousands Of People, And The City Was Ravaged By A Blast Reaching 7.8 On The Richter Scale. Why Would "Dios, Or God" Cause His Fellow Roman Catholics To Die In That Earthquake, And Turn Their Homeland Into Ruins Or Hell; Which Was Paradise, With Beaches, Palm Trees, Ancient Monuments, And Thousands Of Foreign Tourists Who Come To Maintain Paradise, Or Mexico, By Spending Billions Of Dollars On Its Economy Who Adhere To Different Religious Beliefs. He Caused All Of These Human Beings, Who He Created In The First Place, To Die By An Earthquake In A Matter Of Seconds. It Just Doesn't Make Any Sense.


On January 22, 1907 A.D., An Earthquake Occurred Causing A Fire In Jamaica. Officials In Kingston Say Many Hundreds Were Killed In Jamaica. Jamaica Is One Of The Most Beautiful Islands Of The West Indies. It's Like , Paradise: Waterfalls, Tropical Jungles, Beaches, Historical Sites, Turquoise Waters, Etc.
Most Of The Inhabitants Are Methodists Or Anglicans, After The Church Of England - Jamaica's Colonizer Since The 16Th Century Who Are Protestants. Therefore, Methodists And Anglicans Are Protestants. Where Was God, And Why Would He Allow His Faithful, Believing Followers Of The Church To Die In
An Earthquake - Or The Followers Of Voodooism Or Hoodooism, Who Follow Guede; Another Way Of Saying Good, Or God? Then, There Is Erzulie, The God Of Sorcery, Black Magic And Mystery; Whom
You Can Ask To Put A Hex On A Person, And The Snake God Damballah. Isn't It Coincidental That This God Is Named So Closely To The City Of Shamballah,


In The Center Of The Earth? Damballah Or Loa Is The God Of Fertility And Wisdom. Whenever These People Want To Get Pregnant They Ask Damballah Or Loa Because He Is The God Of Fertility And Wisdom. Where Were These Triad Of Deities, Whom You Put Your Total Allegiance And Trust In?Now, Returning To The Homeland In The U.S.A. That Suffered One Of Its Worst Earthquakes Ever On April 19, 1906 A.D. That
San Francisco Earthquake Killed Thousands Of People, Spreading Miles Of Flames, Reducing Most Of San Francisco To Ashes And Millions Of Dollars In Property Damage. And Again, A Whole Lot Of Humans And Animals And Crops Were Destroyed. Where Was God In This Country Who Are Mostly Christians - Protestants, And Roman Catholics? Now, Everybody Who Died In That Quake Was Not Godly, Pious Or Good People. What About The Good, Righteous, Bible Abiding People Or Animals Who Don't Adhere To Any Scripture, That Died On That Day? Why Couldn't God Just Wave His Hand And Stop It? Or Better Yet, Why Did He Have To Create An Earthquake That Caused Such Destruction. Going South In The Same State Of California, In The City Of Los Angeles, Which Sits On The Andres Fault And Is Very Active And Always
Ready To Explode And Cause Tremors At Any Given Time; He Brought About A Big Quake To Hit Los Angeles Causing 30 People To Die And Roads And Bridges To Crumble.



When Looking At The Far East, The Country Of The Rising Sun, Or Japan, Who Adheres To Buddhism, Shintoism, And Taoism. Japan Had A Horrible Earthquake On September 9, 1923 A.D. Tokyo And Yokohama Were Destroyed By This Earthquake, Killing 300,000 And 500,000 Injured While 2.5 Million Were Left Homeless.Until This Day In Japan, The Nipponese Or Japanese, Must Practice Earthquake Drills, Build Underground Chambers, An Construct Their Houses And Buildings Out Of Earthquake Resistant
Materials, Or They Will Crumble Down At The Blink Of An Eye.


Where Was God, The Enlightened One, Buddha, For His People? Where Was The Great Teacher Confucius, Who Redefined The Ideas In Chinese Life And Thought, Along With Ethical And Humanistic Lines, Or Otherwise Known By His Real Name K'ung Fu Tzu; Born In Lu, Now The Shangtung Province Of China 551-479 B.C.E.? What Happened To Tao Or Chang Tao Ling, Born 34-156 B.C.E. In Szechuan, China? What Happened To All The Meditation, Liturgy, Alchemy, Hermitage, Physical Discipline, Interior And External Cleansing- Did It All Go Down The Drain?

[Daniyal]

Why After All Of This, The Supreme Reality Or 'Tao," Headed By The Three Pure Ones - The Sang Ch'ing, Or Lords Of The Heaven, Earth, And Man — Couldn't Prevent This Earthquake? Where Was Tao To Help These Devout Followers Of His, During This Earthquake In Japan?



Some Major Earthquakes That
Occurred From 1551 To 1991 A.D.
DATE CITY/COUNTRY DEATHS RICHTER SCALE

Oct. ll,1737 Calcutta, India 300,000
Religion: Hinduism, None
Buddhism, Jainism,
Islam, Christianity,

Apr 18-19,19O6 San Francisco, 503
California
Religion: 8.3
Protestant Baptists,
Roman Catholicism

Feb 29, I960 Agadir, Morocco 12,000
Religion: Islam None

Jul 28, 1976 Tanghain, China 242,000
Religion: Confucianism 8.2
Taoism, Buddhism

Aug 17, 1976 Mindanao, Philippines 8,000
Religion: Roman 7.8
Catholicism, Islam


What About The Fires (Genesis 19:24), And Wars (Numbers 21:14) That Are Going On? What about: Christian Women Being Raped? Crosses In Cars And Cars Getting Crashed Up? "Thanks To The Man Up Stairs", People Would Say, "Uncle Bill Is Alive", When Uncle Bill Is Probably Somewhere Smashed Up, Or Dead. How's That, When God Is The Repairer? In Aramic, (Hebrew), He Is Gadar (YU) In Ashuric/Syriac (Arabic), The Repairer Is Al Baariu (tfjL«Jl)> And In Greek, Demiourgos (SiuiODpyoq). He Is Destroyer, In Aramic/Hebrew "Shachath (niTO)," Or In Ashuric/Syriac Arabic, Al Muzzillu (JJL-Jl), Or
In Greek, The Destroyer Is (ATCoXXixov) Apolloluon.


1 Corinthians 10:10

Neither You Murmur As Some Of Them Also
Murmur. And Were Perished By The
Destroyer.



If God Is The Repairer, The Destroyer, Then He Is Responsible For The Incident; Correct? Wouldn't He Be Able To Repair Things (Repair - To Make Correct)? The Destroyer, Which Is The 25Th Attribute Of God. The God Who Is Also Responsible For The Destruction Of Lebanon (, An Islamic/Christian Country, When The Israeli Jets Hit Lebanon In Bombing Raids In August Of 1982 A.D., Killing At Least 60 Civilians, Both Arab Muslims And Christians; Or In The Middle Eastern Country Of Kuwait, Car Bomb Kills 7, Injures 62 At U.S.
Embassy On December, 1993 A.D. Or In The African Country Of Somalia, The Ethiopians Attack Two Italian Outposts On June 1935 A.D. 30 Natives Killed And Other Countries That Went To War, And Suffered.



What About The Japanese Bombing Pearl I larbor On December 7, 1941 A.D? The U.S.S West Virginia And The U.S.S. Tennessee Were Both Destroyed At Pearl Harbor. Thousands Of
Hawaiians And Americans Died Or Were Wounded. The Invasion Of The Central American Country Of Panama, The Largest U.S. Military Airlift Since Vietnam, Targeted Strongman And Accused Drug Dealer, Manuel Antonio Noriega, At A Cost That Could Prove High. If He Had Humbled Himself And Tried To
Compromise With The American Government, He Wouldn't Be In Jail Now. Well, I Guess You
Are Wondering Why He Should Have Humbled Himself To America? After The French Couldn't Finance And Build The Panama Canal. The United States Did It Under The 26th President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
In 1904 A.D. After The French Couldn't Do It.


The U.S.A. Brought About Jobs, And Uplifted Panama's Economy By Cutting In The Thinnest Strip Of Land, Known As The Isthmus Of Panama. It Was Difficult Because Most North Americans Are Not Accustomed To Tropical Diseases As Malaria And Cholera, And They Had To Dig With Less Advanced Tools To Connect The Atlantic And Pacific Oceans With The Caribbean Sea Therefore, The Trips Are Shortened Up To 8,000 Nautical Miles From West Coast U.S.A.


The Panama Canal Generally Makes Travel Shorter And Safer Because There Are Giant Whirlpools, Around Cape Horn (The Southern Tip Of South America). These Whirlpools Swallow Ships Up In A Matter Of
2 Minutes; Henceforth, Saving Millions Of Lives, Money And Time. So If You Built Something As Big And Important As The Panama Canal, Wouldn't You Want A Piece Of The Action In Panama? What About The People Like Lot's Family In Sodom And Gomorrah (Genesis 19:14, Jeremiah 49:1 And The City Of Jericho?
And Why Did They Go Through All That Suffering And Pain; All Of Those People Who Lived In Jericho?


What About The Planes That Crashed And The Sinking Of The Titanic? What About The Bombing Of Hiroshima And Nagasaki, The World Trade Center, The Explosion Of 1N.A.S.A/S Challenger Space Flight In 1986 A.D., The Hindenburg's Crash, And The Bombing Of Iraq? And I Can Go On. The Hindenburg Is One Of The Largest Airships Ever Built. This German Craft Burst Into Flames While Landing In Lakehurst, N.J.
In 1937 A.D. Thirty-Six People Died In This Disaster. Where Was God (Gud), Or Gut For His People Who Are Lutherans? As For The Jews, Where Was Elohim, El Eloh, Or Yahuwa? Why Did The Plane Have To Crash In The First Place? Don't Be Afraid To Question This God Who Made Us As Humanity To Be Able To
Question Him. As It Says In / John 4:1;


1 John 4:1

Beloved Ones, Do Not Believe Every Spirit,
But Prove The Spirits If They Are Of The
Thehos. Because Many False Prophets Are
Coming Into The Kosmos (World)
Everywhere.


Notable Aircraft Disasters That
Occurred From 1937 To 1991 A.D.

May 6, 1937 German Zeppelin 36 Died
Burned In Lakehurst In W. J.
Religion: Catholicism,
Protestant

May 2O, 1965 Pakistani Boeing 121 Died
727 Crashed In
Cairo Egypt
Religion: Islam,
Hinduism,

Feb. 4, 1966 Air-Nippon Boeing 124 Died
707 Jetliner Plunged
Into Tokyo Bay
Religion: Buddhism,
Shintoism, Taoism

April 20, 1967 S. African Boeing 122 Died
Crashed On Takeoff,
Windhoek, Religion:
Methodist, Islam,
Tribalism

April 23, 1973 Pan American 107 Died
707 Jet Crashed In
Bali, Indonesia
Religion: Protestant,
Baptist


On November 22, 1902 A.D., The Williamsburg Bridge Was Decimated By Fire. The City Of New York Has Survived Many Fires, But Few Were As Dramatic As This Blaze, Which Ripped Across Part Of The Williamsburg Bridge.

[Daniyal]

Fires That Occurred
From 1871 To 1991 A.D.

Oct8, 1871 Chicago, U.S. 250 Died
Religion: Protestant,
Baptist
196 Million
Dollars
Lost

May 25, 1887 Opera Comique, Paris 200 Died
Religion: Roman
Catholicism, Islam
Udaisa

Nov 13, I960 Amode, Syria, 152 Died In Movie Theater
Religion: Islam,
Judaism, Christianity

May 4, 1963 Diourbel, Senegal 64 Died
Religion: Islam,
Animisa, Christianity

Feb 25, 1977 Moscow, Russia 45 Died
Religion: Russian
Orthodox Church, ttone
Islam

May 2O, 198O Kingston, Jamaica, 157 Nursing Homes Deaths
Religion: Protestant
Catholicism,
Voodooism.


In The African Country Of Mozambique, Where They Speak Portuguese, Rebels Were Killed 100,000 People On May 10, 1988 A.D. Mozambique Has One Of The World's Fiercest Rebel Armies - "The Mozambique National Resistance, Or Renamo." Its Campaign Is To Overthrow The Nation's Marxist Or Communist
Government. In The Meantime, While The Two Opposing Armies Are At Each Other's Throats, The People In That Country Are Starving To Death, A Similar Situation Throughout Most Of Africa Today.


Nuclear Accidents That Occurred
From 1957 To 1991 A.D.

Oct. 7, 1957 Liverpool, England 39 Died Of Cancer
Religion: Protestant

Oct. 7, 1957 In Kasli, USSR A Major Evacuation
Religion: Orthodox
Russian Church

Jan 3,1961 Idaho Falls, Idaho 3 Died
Religion: Mormon,
Protestant

Jan 21, 1969 Lucensh Bad, Swit
Religion: Roman
Protestant
Catholicism

Oct 13, 1966 La Salle, Quebec
Religion: Protestant,
Catholicism

April 25,1981Tsuruga, Japan 100 Exposed To Radiation
Religion: Buddhism,
Shintoism, Taoism

On November 21, 1985, A.D. For The First Time In 400 Years, A Volcano Erupted In Northern Columbia, Setting Off A Chain Reaction That Killed As Many As 20,000 People. It Was Mud That Killed The People,
Not Lava.

Some Notable Hurricanes,
Typhoons. Blizzards

Oct 4-7, 1964 Hora, Caribbean 6,000
Religion: Voodooism,
Catholicism

Nov 13, 197O Cyclone, Bangladesh 300,000
Religion: Jainism,
Islam, Hinduism

July 11, 1974Japan, S. Korea 108
Religion: Shintoism,
Buddhism, Toaism

Aug 18, 1983 H Alicia, Southern 17 Died
Texas
Religion: Protestant,
Baptist

Sept 2, 1984 T. Ike Southern Philippines
Religion: Islam, Roman
Catholicism.

Sept 16-22, 1989H. Hugo Caribbean 504
SE, U.S.
Religion: Voodooism
Catholicism, Protestant

[Daniyal]

Then There Were Explosions: The Space Shuttle, "The Challenger", Exploded In A Ball Of Fire Right After It Left The Launching Pad At Cape Canaveral On January 28, 1986 A.D; On National T.V. That Explosion Was The Worst Accident In The History Of The U.S.A.'s Space Program. It Killed Seven Astronauts; Whose Remains Landed In The Atlantic Ocean. Where Was God When They Attempted To Reach The
Skies, Or Heavens, To Learn More About Outer Space, To Benefit The Earth?


On August 28, 1988 A.D., There Was Another Disaster Where Three Jets From An Italian Air Force Acrobatic Flying Team Collided At An Air Show In West Germany, Sending One Of The Planes Careening Into A Terrified Crowd Of Spectators. At Least 46 People Were Killed Instantly While Hundreds Of Others In
The Audience Were Injured By Flying Debris And Fireballs From The Jet Fuel Where Was "Dios," Or "God" For These Roman Catholic, Faithful, Devout, Pope Following Men? Also, What About The God Of The Spectators? Where Was He For Those People Who Burned To Death At A Blink Of The Eye?


On June 12, 1989, There Was Upheaval In The (Ountry Of The Sleeping Dragon, "China," Whose Government Is Communist, Founded By Mao Tsi-Tung, And His Fellow Young Adherents Called The "Red Guard" In The 1960's. Thirty Years Later, The Young People Decided To Rebel And The Army Finally Cracks Down On The Young Students Occupying Tiananmen Square, Killing 500 To 1,000 Supporters Of The Democracy Movement. Where Was Confucius Or Buddha For These Students Who Wanted More Freedom?


During One Of The Happiest, Jollies! Times Of The Year, Christmas - There Happens To Be A Tragedy. A Wing Of A Pan Am Plane, Flight 103, From 31,000 Feet Crashed Into The Little, Scottish Village Of Lockerbie Like A Bomb; Digging A Crater 50 Yards Long And Spraying Its Load Of Flaming Jet Fuel Onto Nearby Houses And Passing Cars A Burning Engine Embedded Itself In A Roadway. Pieces Of
Fuselage Ripped Into Houses Causing Extensive Damage. Most Christians Say Jesus Was Born On
Christmas. You Mean To Tell Me That Such A Disaster Is Supposed To Happen On The Day That You Say Christ Was Born? God Almighty Is Allowing This To Happen On The Day That Everybody Is Supposed To Be Happy, Having A Great Time And Good Memories ( Refer To God Misinterpreted , Scroll # 85 )


Ask Yourself "If God Is The Creator Of All Things, Then Why Would He Allow Such A Thing To Happen On Such A Wonderful Day? So, Was God Helping His Own On This Particular Day? Well You Might Say, "Yes, Because He Sent His Only Begotten Son, Jesus."


John 3:16

For Thehos (Elohim) Loved The World So
Much That He Gave His Only Male Child So
That Whosoever Believes In Him Would Not
Die, But Have Everlasting Life.


What About The Mothers Who Lost Their Son/Sons, Daughter/Daughters, Sister Who Lost That Brother, Or Sister. You Mean To Tell Me That God Almighty, The Loving, All-Knowing, Works By Sacrifice? In Order For Life To Exist, He Must Take Another Life Away?" Is That Your Kind Of God Who Gives Life In
Order To Take Away For Someone Else To Live . ( Refer To Whose God Is Responsible Scroll # 89 )
Yet Another Disaster That Struck A Central American Country - Nicaragua. On October 24, 1988 A.D., Hurricane Joan Hits Nicaragua And The Caribbean With Great Force, Learing 11 Dead, Thousands Homeless, Prompting Calls For International Aid From Nicaragua. Why Didn't Dios Or God Respond To His People In These Nations? Or Why Did A Hurricane Have To Occur In The First Place?

More to come in next post

M.Z.York

[Clint]

Next post?

[Daniyal]

Originally Posted by Clint

Next post?

Yes more in next post it's get better ...

[fuzzy butt]

Daniyal as already written here god sees us as equals ..his children . I may not agree with some religions but in saying that it does not mean that God hasn't stated that he "rains on the rightious and the unrightious" . I am not a christian who believes that the hand of Jehovah steps in to save us. We as humans do that for eash other (as he instructed us to do) and he has left it in our hands to do so . along with his basic instructions of course. but even the most basic of instructions can be difficult to follow.

I believe you'll find only a portion of christians believe that god literally steps in , I don't .

[fuzzy butt]

And with all your posts .......................many words mean nothing .................simple words mean everything.

and you still havent told us what all this diatribe means ............for gods sake what's your point?

[Carolly]

Originally Posted by fuzzy butt

And with all your posts .......................many words mean nothing .................simple words mean everything.

and you still havent told us what all this diatribe means ............for gods sake what's your point?

Wind up is the point Fuzz