Religion Is Not Always Good

[K.Snyder]

Originally Posted by Jester

Lon its the so called free thinkers that are the largest advocates of abortion, child genocide. I call it extreme violence against an innocent child to be ripped from the womb, dismembered alive, by being sucked into a vacuum. Then incinerated and wipped off the face of the earth haveing never been even once named, all for convinience of society. Thats not the 'religious' doing that, its the 'humanists'.

Humanists are most assuredly not peculiar to abortion.

No one is for abortion. There are many that are not against it for reasons they find sacrificial and based upon the entire concept would ultimately mean for the betterment of the people in which they're concerned about.

What's left is considering ones reasons for abortion to be misconceived.

[K.Snyder]

Originally Posted by JAB

Agreed but how is a religion formed out of that greed?

Because greed creates turmoil which ultimately creates those hardships.

Why else do people go to war?...

What's left are wars having been blamed for religious entity when in fact it were politically motivated only for those very same people, unjustified in their reasoning behind their decision to go to war, doing so in the name of religion. Hence why you get "Religion Is Not Always Good"...

Simple in my mind really. ...

Originally Posted by Ted

Jester

You wish.

Of course Philo is not in the Bible but here again that does not change the meanings used in the days of Jesus or is this another contradiction.?

Jesus was a nonviolent resister against the Roman Empire. He was concerned about the poor and the down trodden. Perhaps you should re-read the parables. Who were invited into the wedding feast when the ritzies wouldn't come. Who helped the Jew when he fell among thieves, whom did Jesus sit at table with?

Perhaps a few lessons on the ancient Roman Empire would help.

Shalom
Ted

hehehehehe.... he was not, he came to teach humanity what the spiritual heart was all about. The roman empire was simply the backdrop in time and history in which he did it. had it been any othe time in history it'd been the same. Each of those parables were taught for humanity al alone, in all time frames of history. You do constanly remove the spiritual applications from the bible, why do you do that?

What do I care what some man said 2000 years ago aganst the roman empire?Rome was destroyed.

The lessons of the parables are timeless.

Get it?

[Ted]

Jester

You sell our Lord far too short. Your God is indeed too small.

Shalom
Ted

Originally Posted by K.Snyder

Humanists are most assuredly not peculiar to abortion.

No one is for abortion. There are many that are not against it for reasons they find sacrificial and based upon the entire concept would ultimately mean for the betterment of the people in which they're concerned about.

What's left is considering ones reasons for abortion to be misconceived.

What planet are you on? Millions protect abortion rights daily. Yes the suport abortion whole heartedly. If 'no one was for abortion' it'd be unheard of.

Originally Posted by K.Snyder

Because greed creates turmoil which ultimately creates those hardships.

Why else do people go to war?...

What's left are wars having been blamed for religious entity when in fact it were politically motivated only for those very same people unjustified in their reasoning behind their decision to go to war doing so in the name of religion. Hence why you get "Religion Is Not Always Good"...

Simple in my mind really. ...

No, it's religions being blamed for war.

[Ted]

Actually it is the extremists that perpetrate a good deal of hatred and killing. They can be extremists in any faith.

Shalom
Ted

[K.Snyder]

Originally Posted by JAB

No, it's religions being blamed for war.

That's what I said...

Originally Posted by Ted

Jester

You sell our Lord far too short. Your God is indeed too small.

Shalom
Ted

That's getting old Ted.

But let me explain it again this time so you can understand it...

You deny Jesus was God. You name him just a passive resistor, a protestor of the roman empire. You refuse to agree wih spiritual application of timeless parables, and that jesus taught spiritual lessons for the heart of man.

You are vague on the ressurrection, only saying 'something amazing happened', yet you deny Jesus is God, so who cares what the ressurection means any way in your book...

Now Im stating that Jesus was indeed God, and man, that he is the perfect propiritiaion for sin and salvation and an ongoing relationship... that his words are timeless and deeply spiritual and based on the teaching of the heart of man...

Now who's God is too small?

Your god is unreal, a figment of the imigination of so called scholars that probably have so currupt lives that they wont even post a bio.

[Ted]

The downfall of man has been the whole idea of peace through victory. Jesus taught first justice and then peace. Borg, Crossan.

Part of the problem with saying that the Roman Empire was only the back drop is that Rome was part of the context not just some insignificant bystander.

Shalom
Ted