God and Consciousness.

[Mickiel]

Consciousness is a key to understanding the truth. Its awareness, thoughts about our existance and Gods. How sensitive we are about our own awareness.

I will be looking into this over the next few months, and it is very revealing, very interesting.

Peace.

Originally Posted by Mickiel

Consciousness is a key to understanding the truth. Its awareness, thoughts about our existance and Gods. How sensitive we are about our own awareness.

I will be looking into this over the next few months, and it is very revealing, very interesting.
Peace.

Be determined.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oePY_MH3mqk

[Lon]

Originally Posted by Mickiel

Consciousness is a key to understanding the truth. Its awareness, thoughts about our existance and Gods. How sensitive we are about our own awareness.

I will be looking into this over the next few months, and it is very revealing, very interesting.

Peace.

Good luck on your quest.

[Mickiel]

For God to be real, he then must be Conscious. A thinking being, powerfully aware and obviously holding great power of the Mind. God must be inwardly sensible and aware of his own existence.

To be endowed with consciousness, is to direct your own thoughts and attention unduly toward oneself, you are aware. Its really the upper level of mental life, simply marked by your awareness. You know and understand that you, are you, and that you are alive.

Life is not an illusion, its real, only a fool would deny this. What I want to do in this study, is to look at God and Consciousness. How they relate, what it means, how we have both understood and misunderstood consciousness, and how that has affected our view of God and the bible.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

One thing I know and partly understand, " I am Alive." The old saying, " I think, I feel, therefore I am." I am conscious. And I am partly conscious of God, not much, but a little, which is enough to fascinate me about him. And I really would like to know God, not know Christians, but to know this God they believe in.

I often wonder about God, his great Mind, his obvious great power, an incredible being. And when he created humanity, he gave each human consciousness, or self awareness. Interesting. I tend to believe God has created all kinds of beings, and I don't think he has given all of them consciousness, or self awareness. And this includes the beings created in the Spirit relm.

Just look at the beings he created on earth, only humanity has consciousness, animals do not. They exist only on instinct, not self aware intellect. And I personally believe that God created humans prior to Adam and Eve, but those humans didnot have Consciousness, they were more like the Animals of their time, holding only instinct and a miminal level of intellect and self survival. This explains why archaeology has found so many human remains, so far back and before civilized man came on the scene.

I think Adam and Eve were the first humans created " With Consciousness", or created in Gods Image, holding self awareness. I no longer accept the 6,000 year old human civilization teachings, they are simply incorrect. I cannot adhere to things that are obviously flawed, I want to be aware of the real truth, not traditional theory. And this desire effectively dismisses me from being in any church, they are not for me.

I want to be conscious of the real truth.

But I have come to understand, that such a desire, taken seriously, will isolate you, and turn you away from the commonly accepted flow of Knowledge. And you will be introduced to a certain kind of pain, and suffering. A mental pain will enter into your consciousness.

Why God created humans, or " Cavemen", with no consciousness, I have no ideal. I wish I knew. But Genesis is misunderstood, there is more than one creation of man in Genesis, more on that later, when I walk this through the bible. For some reason, God created humans prior to Adam, perhaps thousands of human years before Adam. I mean we have the evidence of this, those who have eyes to see it. Humans created prior to Adam, does NOTHING to disrupt ANY promise of Christ in the Bible. It changes nothing in Gods plans, but it would change a whole lot of human doctrine.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

[Lon]

Originally Posted by Mickiel

One thing I know and partly understand, " I am Alive." The old saying, " I think, I feel, therefore I am." I am conscious. And I am partly conscious of God, not much, but a little, which is enough to fascinate me about him. And I really would like to know God, not know Christians, but to know this God they believe in.

I often wonder about God, his great Mind, his obvious great power, an incredible being. And when he created humanity, he gave each human consciousness, or self awareness. Interesting. I tend to believe God has created all kinds of beings, and I don't think he has given all of them consciousness, or self awareness. And this includes the beings created in the Spirit relm.

Just look at the beings he created on earth, only humanity has consciousness, animals do not. They exist only on instinct, not self aware intellect. And I personally believe that God created humans prior to Adam and Eve, but those humans didnot have Consciousness, they were more like the Animals of their time, holding only instinct and a miminal level of intellect and self survival. This explains why archaeology has found so many human remains, so far back and before civilized man came on the scene.

I think Adam and Eve were the first humans created " With Consciousness", or created in Gods Image, holding self awareness. I no longer accept the 6,000 year old human civilization teachings, they are simply incorrect. I cannot adhere to things that are obviously flawed, I want to be aware of the real truth, not traditional theory. And this desire effectively dismisses me from being in any church, they are not for me.

I want to be conscious of the real truth.

But I have come to understand, that such a desire, taken seriously, will isolate you, and turn you away from the commonly accepted flow of Knowledge. And you will be introduced to a certain kind of pain, and suffering. A mental pain will enter into your consciousness.

Why God created humans, or " Cavemen", with no consciousness, I have no ideal. I wish I knew. But Genesis is misunderstood, there is more than one creation of man in Genesis, more on that later, when I walk this through the bible. For some reason, God created humans prior to Adam, perhaps thousands of human years before Adam. I mean we have the evidence of this, those who have eyes to see it. Humans created prior to Adam, does NOTHING to disrupt ANY promise of Christ in the Bible. It changes nothing in Gods plans, but it would change a whole lot of human doctrine.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

Finding the answers to your quest might involve going to Tibet and sitting on a mountain top, turning a prayer wheel and muttering a mantra, then and only then will the TRUTH become apparent.

[Mickiel]

Really Consciousness is a dialog within, a dialog that is not soley produced by the brain. I believe consciousness is " The Spirit in man." Something that cannot be mapped by the scientist, or graphed by the nuerololigist. Its just there. And I think it comes from God. I think it is controlled by God and maintained by God, it was created by God.

And I want to get into that.

Peace.

[Lon]

Originally Posted by Mickiel

Really Consciousness is a dialog within, a dialog that is not soley produced by the brain. I believe consciousness is " The Spirit in man." Something that cannot be mapped by the scientist, or graphed by the nuerololigist. Its just there. And I think it comes from God. I think it is controlled by God and maintained by God, it was created by God.

And I want to get into that.

Peace.

I wish you well on getting into that. Along the way you may wish to contemplate why God chose to make creation in such a complicated fashion and over such a very very long period, and why he created single celled animals before man. It just seems the whole process could have been made much simpler, I mean, why dinosaurs over millions of years, and the variety, holy smokes. Of course there are some that think this whole complicated process began 6,000 years ago. Oh well. More to contemplate.

[spot]

Originally Posted by Mickiel

For God to be real, he then must be Conscious. A thinking being, powerfully aware and obviously holding great power of the Mind. God must be inwardly sensible and aware of his own existence.

Once you impose restrictions you may well be eliminating the truth.

You're conscious, nobody doubts that.

If you enquire of a passive unknowing universe which is capable of many responses, and if you follow the response which you find meaningful, then you're defining God yourself. At the same time you're approaching him, clarifying and his refining his nature, engaging in dialog. That's still only one consciousness, your own. God emerges from your interaction with reality. Your path is undoubtedly going to be different to mine. What we find will be quite different Gods - some vengeful fundamentalist power-freaks, some broken powerless quiet voices, an entire pantheon. But if you try, sometimes you might find you get what you need.

[OpenMind]

"For God to be real, he then must be Conscious."

This statement intrigues me. What is your hypothesis for it?
In a later post you refer to Christians. Is it the Christian God that you are referring to?