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Old 03-18-2005, 11:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Highly recommended television ad

http://uccoc.org/view2/?ad2

Please, if you are inclined, file the 'informal objection' for the networks refusing to run this advertisement. and let other people know.

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Old 03-18-2005, 11:49 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It's funny that you posted this today. I just got on here ready to ask everyone's opinion on Rev. Phelps. He and some of his church members recently came to Colorado Springs (where I live) to protest at a high school. They are protesting because one of the students wants to have a Gay/Straight Alliance club. Rev. Phelps and 9 of his church members turned up with signs that said "God hates Fags" and others similar. I'm very proud of my community. While he and his 9 members came to protest, 500 people came out to oppose him. It was a peaceful protest (as peaceful as it could be.)
I know many churches don't believe homosexuality is O.K., but, to have the message he and his members do is outrageous. So much for equality.
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I saw the ad for the UCofC. As an opponent of evangelical Christianity and it's inherent built in hate I was surprised at the ad. I consider Christian fundamentalists as brethren of Islamic extremists, Hindu militants and Jewish settlers. Why wouldn't the centrist media air the ad? I may be incorrect but aren't you a conservative? Bush supporters would be more likely to want to see the ad nixed. Confused in KC.

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If you'd like to check out the fanatic Christianity of the Phelps cult visit www.GodHatesFags.com. WARNING: This site is offensive and unsettling.

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I saw the ad for the UCofC. As an opponent of evangelical Christianity and it's inherent built in hate I was surprised at the ad. I consider Christian fundamentalists as brethren of Islamic extremists, Hindu militants and Jewish settlers. Why wouldn't the centrist media air the ad? I may be incorrect but aren't you a conservative? Bush supporters would be more likely to want to see the ad nixed. Confused in KC.
you are confused, because you seem to base your arguments on the stereotypes, bias, preconceptions, and prejudice you seem to have. which is unsurprising.

"conservatives hate homosexuals"
"christians hate homosexuals"
"bush supporters hate homosexuals"

i'm particularly amused by your mention of 'the centrist media'. ROFL!

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[quote=anastrophe]you are confused, because you seem to base your arguments on the stereotypes, bias, preconceptions, and prejudice you seem to have. which is unsurprising.

"conservatives hate homosexuals"
"christians hate homosexuals"
"bush supporters hate homosexuals"

I do stereotype rightist religious fundamentalists. They are my enemy. Calling them out is crucial to abort their attempts at making my country into a one party theocracy. Anotherwords stepping back in time 400 years. The media isn't centrist? There is nothing liberal, progressive or especially socialist in any of our media. Capitalists own and control it. Perhaps I should restate myself and say I support a NON-capitalist media. It is encouraging knowing there are conservatives out there whose opinions differ from Fred Phelps.

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I think the add is very, very interesting, does this only mean that all races are welcome, or are gays also welcome? I don't see why it was not aired; the stations air freaking Billy Graham adds and some of the other adds for more non-inclusive denominations.

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I made an objection, but I was very leary typing in my addy and whatnot. I will be pissed if I start getting mail from that denomination.

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I do stereotype rightist religious fundamentalists.
so you acknowledge that you are a bigot. that's a shame.

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They are my enemy.
that is certainly your choice.

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Calling them out is crucial to abort their attempts at making my country into a one party theocracy. Anotherwords stepping back in time 400 years.
i consider that nonsense. there is no such attempt at work. did you bother listening to the tapes of the conversations bush had with a friend before the 2000 election? he made it very clear that he was not going to be a lackey for the christian right. liberals apparently don't want to acknowledge that - frankly, it was a bombshell, but of course the (yes, liberal) media gave it precious little play, because, of course, it doesn't fit the stereotype, or the agenda to portray bush as an evil little christian fundie out to turn this into a theocracy. oh well.

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The media isn't centrist? There is nothing liberal, progressive or especially socialist in any of our media.
well, of course, if you're on the far left, then the plain-left media woudl appear centrist.

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Capitalists own and control it. Perhaps I should restate myself and say I support a NON-capitalist media.
wow. so you want government controlled media? that's an interesting concept. you're familiar with other great works of government controlled media? "Pravda", the russian daily? You know, "Pravda" means Truth. it was very clever.

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It is encouraging knowing there are conservatives out there whose opinions differ from Fred Phelps.
it's discouraging to be confronted with blatant, unapologetic bigotry. the sentence above is no different than the following:

"It is encouraging to know there are black people out there whose opinions differ from Eldridge Cleaver".

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I made an objection, but I was very leary typing in my addy and whatnot. I will be pissed if I start getting mail from that denomination.
did you uncheck the "Check this box if you would like to receive periodic updates or action alerts"?

if not, you'll likely receive further communication from them, but i doubt they're in the business of selling email addresses.

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