I am the Bread of Life. A real look at Jesus.

[Mickiel]

Originally Posted by Mickiel

In 1John 4:14;" And we have beheld and bear witness that the Father has sent the Son to be the Savior of the WORLD!"

Thats it in a nutshell, this is WHY the Father made Jesus responsible and sent him on a mission. It does not matter what ANY believer is teaching, or how any believer interpits the bible message, the REASON Jesus was sent to earth, was to SAVE EVERYONE, NONE excluded!



Peace.

This here is one of the main reasons so many believers really do not know Jesus, they do not understand his mission. They have swallowed the hell teachings, the limited atonement teachings, the " only a few will be saved mentality", and NONE of these are a description of the real Jesus. Its just not what Jesus is all about. Its NOT the way to understand him. This is " Simply" why so many are not really looking at Jesus, they misinterpit his message. They think Jesus is going to loose most of humanity. That is proof they misunderstand Christ.

They are not getting it.

Peace.

[fuzzy butt]

I believe in Jesus and his purpose .
I believe that he was the original High Angel Michael
" " that it is insulting to hang a cross around your neck to commemerate him .
I believe toward the end of time he will seperate the the sheep from the goats.
Not everyone is saved not even those who profess to do his work or just "believe he exists".
I believe his birth is not important, but his teachings and prophecy and his promise to those loving him and his father.

i believe what the bible says of him and his teachings.
I believe mixing pagan practice with his teachings is insulting to him, Christmas etc.

His death is a time of reflection not celebration.

[Mickiel]

You need to stop listening to these believers who are hell mongers, believers who give power to the eternal suffering theology. Don't give your mind to ANY thing that will limit ANY sinner from the saving ability of Christ. Keep this in mind, and I mean to be repitive, Jesus is going to get you your salvation, even if you don't want it. Hes going to get you your salvation.

Your way in comming to know Jesus, is comming to understand his heart and desires. And his power to accomplish what he desires.

And let me tell you, what Jesus desires, and what many of his followers desire, are two different things. You wouldnot believe the number of Jesus followers that actually desire for sinners to go to this hell. They want it.

They are not like Christ, and salvation is NOT in their hands.

We are very fortunate that God has not placed salvation into his followers hands, most of us would be doomed. Just look at how people are claiming so many other humans are going to be lost. Proudly claiming it.

A very ugly way of belief.

And it is NOT Christ like.

Peace.

[fuzzy butt]

i don't believe in hell it's not apart of my religious understanding Nor is going to heaven . I believe we are resurrected but only those written in the book of life .
those who are not do not suffer eternal damnation they just fail to be resurrected and fail to exist .
And it's not up to me nor any other human to determine who is written in the book of life.

[Mickiel]

Originally Posted by fuzzy butt

i don't believe in hell it's not apart of my religious understanding Nor is going to heaven . I believe we are resurrected but only those written in the book of life .
those who are not do not suffer eternal damnation they just fail to be resurrected and fail to exist .
And it's not up to me nor any other human to determine who is written in the book of life.

Well this is an example of an aittitude and belief that is making room for the failure of a certain amount of humans. Even trying to limit the amount of people written in the book of life. The belief of certain people who adhere to any form of limited atonement, is not how salvation is established. Salvation is based on God and Christ alone, not on what believers, are believing.

People who make room in their belief for others to fail, do not know the Power of God.

Its just that simple.

Peace

[fuzzy butt]

And it's not up to me nor any other human to determine who is written in the book of life.

don't you read ?

People who make room in their belief for others to fail, do not know the Power of God.

I do not make room God does, I do not limit it GOd does, His decisions has nothing to do with me .

Believe what you will it doesn't worry me .

[Mickiel]

We have to learn to discern when other forces are seeking to limit God
And these always try to limit their fellow man. Salvation is for everyone, designed for everyone, needed by everyone, none are excluded, all will be given it freely.

Jesus is going to get you your Salvation.

Yes you, the one who others are making room for failure, and teaching that God will sanction their failure.

Yes you will make it, you, the sinner who irritates the hope of the self righteous believers who can't wait for God to destroy you.

Jesus is going to get you your Salvation, because he has the will and Power to do it.

You, yes you, the unbeliever who has allowed the shortsighted believers to intimidate your view of God, and lost your hope in this seemingly hopeless world, Salvation is espically for you.

Because thats how Jesus is. He has included those who the believers has excluded.

Peace.

[Mickiel]

The beginning of understanding the real Jesus, is to understand that he willnot loose not even one of his Sheep! And the whole world is his Sheep.

The believers are trying to convince themselves and the world, that only they are of Christ fold, and no other Sheep are.

Again, the exclusion mentality. Include themselves and exclude you. Typical selfish mentality, such is not knowing the real Jesus.

Jesus revealed mentality is this: he will leave the group of Sheep that are at home, and go get even one lost sheep. THATS Jesus mentality, hes going to get you your Salvation. Hes comming to get you if your lost.

Thats how Jesus thinks, thats how you will think as he becomes your role model. You will think like him, and exclude none from salvation.

Peace.

[fuzzy butt]

you're not making any sense . jesus siad he wasn't here for the good he was here to save the bad ...................but they have a choice. He will not force them they either accept his teachings (which by the way doesn't have to come from any official religion ) or they dont' . but it's not just jesus teachings but the prophets before him that stretch over many religions.

Good grief

Okay give me a parable off the top of your head .................give me the sermon on the mount. Then tell me that what you say is right .

[Mickiel]

Originally Posted by fuzzy butt

you're not making any sense . jesus siad he wasn't here for the good he was here to save the bad ...................but they have a choice. He will not force them they either accept his teachings (which by the way doesn't have to come from any official religion ) or they dont' . but it's not just jesus teachings but the prophets before him that stretch over many religions.

Good grief

Okay give me a parable off the top of your head .................give me the sermon on the mount. Then tell me that what you say is right .

I hold no intrest in trying to give you anything, you are already set in your thoughts. Salvation is not something God has left to human choice, its too important. Why would God allow human choice to effectively doom all those ignorant enough to choose the wrong thing? And God is not that ignorant, as to allow human ignorance to condemn itself.

No, you are already effected by the limited doctrine of death to certain humans who you think just willnot " Make it." As if Christ cannot save them, unless they allow it. There are many you can comfortably discuss your views with, but I hold no intrest in anything that will limit salvation for ANY reason.

I view God as he who all things are possible with, including the Salvation of all those that you have found a reason for them not to " Make it."

Our future is not shaped by, or dependant upon, any view you hold for all of us.
And I am happy it is so.

Peace.