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Old 12-02-2008, 11:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I am the Bread of Life. A real look at Jesus.

There exist a very egnigmatic being called " The Word." Jesus Christ, the actual Son of God. I want to take a look at this most dynamic being. This awesome individual whom the Father has invested so much into. This being that all things are predicated upon.

I would like to aploigise ahead of time for the length of this post, there is an awful lot of material to cover, there is a lot of misconception about Jesus.

But I want to open up this most unusual being.

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Re: I am the Bread of Life. A real look at Jesus.

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There exist a very egnigmatic being called " The Word." Jesus Christ, the actual Son of God. I want to take a look at this most dynamic being. This awesome individual whom the Father has invested so much into. This being that all things are predicated upon.

I would like to aploigise ahead of time for the length of this post, there is an awful lot of material to cover, there is a lot of misconception about Jesus.

But I want to open up this most unusual being.

Peace.
He is called by many names. Delving into each one (name) gives just a bit more insight into Him.

I like Him called "The Word", as all things came into being by God's words.
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Old 12-02-2008, 11:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: I am the Bread of Life. A real look at Jesus.

Again Jesus in John 14:6;" I am the Way, the Truth and the Life." Interesting dialog of complette Power personified. Jesus is the Way, or the direction and path of all things intended. He is the real truth, and he is actually the Life of all things created.

These are some serious combinations, some awe inspiring responsibilitys. The Father God has invested some serious weight on Jesus.

Lets examine all three of these. Jesus IS the LIFE! In John 17:2;" Even as thou gave me authority over all mankind, that to everyone you gave me, I can give Eternal Life. Jesus is actually the one who will give eternal Life to humanity. He has responsibility over all of humanity.

Look man, thats a heavy burden. Were talking extreme responsibility. God must think an awful lot of Jesus. And listen, no BEING ALIVE could be responsible for such a tremendous burden, that is NOT all powerful himself! Jesus Power and responsibility is vastly underated and misunderstood. Jesus IS Life, he is the Bread of Life, or the source of it. He is the actual bloodline of human flesh, and the actual sdource of all humans, born again into eternal Life.

Again Jesus in John 15:1;" I am the true Vine, and my Father is the Vine dresser." Jesus is the connection to Life. And God made him so. This is one of the reasons Jesus was a man of sorrows, he brooded a lot. Theres a lot of pressure on him, a lot of intense things in reality are his direct responsibility. Thats a lot to have on your mind man.

Its no telling the things that Jesus meditates on, thinks about. God has made him to be the " Conduit of Life itself!"

He is the Vine, or the source.

Look at John 17:10 very closely. ALL THINGS that are yours, are Mine! And Mine are yours. This is what Jesus said about the Father. Do you realize the vastness of this? Everything that belongs to the Father, belongs to Christ. ALL things. Including Gods throne, the 24 elders, all angels, and the Holy Spirit! ALL these things belongs to Jesus, they are his to command.

And I want to get into this more.

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Old 12-02-2008, 12:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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John 17:3;" And this is eternal life, that they may know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent." This is a real look at Jesus, he knows that we need to know him, and the Father God, because we don't. We ALL NEED to Know both of them! It does not matter how much you profess to either know him, or not want to know him, they BOTH understand our need to know them.

That is the goal of Christ. That we all have eternal life and come to know our makers.

And listen; Jesus is going to get our eternal Life man. Hes going to get it for us. No matter how much you try to get it, or deserve it on your own, hes going to get you your eternal life man, stop putting that pressure on yourself. No matter how much you don't believe in him, or do not desire him, no matter how lost you are in your belief, hes going to get you your Life man, hes going to get it.

He gave HIS Life for you, and HIS Life is of more value than the sum total of all of humanitys sins combined. All of our sins combined, are worth NOTHING to God! But Jesus is worth EVERYTHING to the Father, thus his death, accomplishes ALL THINGS required by the Father. Gods requirement is that we all have Life, or have Jesus eternally, so he is sharing Christ with us all.

Jesus Loves us with a passion, ALL of us, not just believers. He came to seek and save those of us who are LOST! He came to call the Sinners to repent, no matter how much the righteous are going around condemning the sinners, eternal life is NOT theirs to give and take.

Jesus aittitude towards salvation is TOTALLY misunderstood.

As he is totally misunderstood.

And I want to get into Jesus being the Way and the Truth.

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Re: I am the Bread of Life. A real look at Jesus.

Jesus revealed that he is the Life, meaning Life is in him, and he can give that life to us. He is the creative force, the power, whatever Life is, its him. He also is the Ressurection, meaning death means nothing to him. Death cannot stop him from giving us Life. We can die, and be dead for centurys, that still means nothing to Christ, he is Life, and he is the Ressurection from death to Life.

With that kind of Power, absolutely nothing can stop the will of Christ for humanity. We simply do not understand his will for us. So WE place all kinds of barriers on Christ Life giving Power. We think Sin can stop him. We think the gates of hell can stop him. We think the will of man can stop him.

We think too much of the wrong things.

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Old 12-03-2008, 07:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: I am the Bread of Life. A real look at Jesus.

Reguardless of what believers in God are saying and teaching, its what Jesus has said and taught that bears real meaning. And believers have a problem with this, because they want what THEY have to say, to be as meaningful as Christ, or what their pastor has to say.

Jesus says, about believers, in John 15:5, " Apart from me, you can do Nothing!" Believers don't believe this, they would rather believe that their own so called " Free Will" is more important than Christ. They think their will is the deciding factor in their salvation. The sheer gall of that! We can DO NOTHING without Jesus, that nothing includes our personal belief in him, our wisdom, knowledge, understanding, our VERY WILL! Christ controls ALL these things.

Notice 2 Corinth. 5:14;" For the Love of Christ CONTROLS Us!" While we were yet sinning, Jesus died for us, because he Loves us. And that Love IS the motivation behind his control over all of humanity. Sin willNOT stop Christ control over humanity. The so called human free will willNOT take away Christ total control over humanity and their salvation.

Your going to have to look at Jesus as he really is, not how these believers are saying that he is. He is complette, and he will achieve complette results. Hes going to get you your salvation.

And I want to get into that.

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Re: I am the Bread of Life. A real look at Jesus.

Hey, why did it take him 3 days to come back from the dead? What did he do, go home for a couple of days and visit his dad?

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Hey, why did it take him 3 days to come back from the dead? What did he do, go home for a couple of days and visit his dad?


It took three days because it was prophicised in the old testement that he would be 3 days and nights in the earth, as Jonah was 3 days in the belly of a whale. I see no great significance in the 3 days, it could have been one or ten, it really does not matter all that much.

I think what he did during the 3 days, is also insignificant, he was dead. I think he did nothing, he was dead. Others believe he went into graves and comminucated with the dead, I see no reason for that. I mean, if he did, its beyond my understanding.

The importance is that he came back, he was ressurected, not the time it took.

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Old 12-06-2008, 10:42 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: I am the Bread of Life. A real look at Jesus.

Now, again Jesus in Matthews 11:27;" ALL things have been handed over to me by my Father."

This needs to be understood in any examination of Christ. Jesus is in charge of, responsible for, ALL things that exist. ALL things that NEED to be done, all decisions on humanity, our salvation, our forgiveness of sin, our grace, our learning, our well being, our life and death, our experiences with BOTH good and Evil, our educations, our wisdom AND ignorance, our intelect, our health,our past present and future, our familys, our church and state, our governments, our wars , our peace, our pain and suffering, he is in charge of EVERYTHING!

EVERYTHING!

He is RESPONSIBLE for everything! Now listen, If I were in charge of my children, I am responsible for everything that happens to them. Until a time comes that they can see to themselves. The way of man is not in himself, we cannot spiritually guide ourselves. So all that I do for my children, they will look to me as their " All in All." Or they need my help in everything.

This is WHY the bible calls God the Father and Jesus Christ, our " All in All." They are everything to us. The Father gave Jesus ALL things, thus Jesus IS the true Bread of Life. We simply cannot exist without him.

So the powers of evil, can score a major blow to a human mind, by taking the mere existence of Jesus from that mind. Or distorting the real meaning of Jesus to that human mind.

Lets then look at why the Father made Jesus responsible for everything.

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In 1John 4:14;" And we have beheld and bear witness that the Father has sent the Son to be the Savior of the WORLD!"

Thats it in a nutshell, this is WHY the Father made Jesus responsible and sent him on a mission. It does not matter what ANY believer is teaching, or how any believer interpits the bible message, the REASON Jesus was sent to earth, was to SAVE EVERYONE, NONE excluded! There are no other reasons for our existence, other than to be saved. The Father willNOT accept any other results from Jesus save the Total complette rehabilitation of all of created humanity.

THAT is Jesus mission, if it is not accomplished, he simply failed at his whole reason for being sent here.

He must Save the entire world.

Lets look into the possibility of that, and what Jesus did to challange this most enourmous calling from the Father.

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