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Old 02-16-2009, 11:19 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Does Religion Breed Ignorance?

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Originally Posted by Clodhopper View Post
No analysis. No engagement. No sign of ability to do so. Interestingly, the "advice" I'm confidently offered, eg "To Desire Security Is A Sign Of Insecurity" is the advice that should be aken by the writer. It is also interesting that the writer operates almost entirely in cliche or slogan, as above, or "belief is ignorance" below. Pretty sounding, good for shouting at a demo, but at best a massive simplification. Like "overmind".

Belief may be ignorant of facts, but you then go on as though that is an absolute proven truth. Maybe it is, but you haven't demonstrated it:



Knowledge and belief are not exclusive. They are part of the same process: I know the Normans are claimed to have invaded England in the year 1066 AD in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle. I believe that claim to be true because other documentary sources also date the invasion to that time.

In fact all knowledge is just belief: Belief that the study of the raw material and other available data has led to correct conclusions. The honest mind ALWAYS knows the possibility of error is there, somewhere. For example, in the case of the Norman Invasion it is possible that the documentary sources were in error for some reason as yet unknown. It is not likely, but the possibility exists.

It's one of the main reasons I'm so suspicious of what you write - this irrational certainty. The faulty logic (see your quotation above, which starts "If one has to believe..."), the unsubstantiated statements treated as proven fact - as in the Desire Security one above.

It's all just slogans cobbled together. Sorry.

Not that I fool myself you're likely to engage constructively with this, but I can't walk by without at least offering a lifeline.


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