Can someone help me? - Page 5

Daniyal · 03-06-2009, 01:46 PM

Belief & Believe" are two of the most deceptive words in religion. Belief is ignorance. Belief is to ignore the facts, intentionally or ignorantly. If one has to believe, it means he or she does not know, and if one does not know, that is ignorance. Anyone can believe anything and this means that a person can believe, and be 100% wrong. But knowledge is knowing and knowledge is correct information. "To know" gives one confidence, but belief infers doubt. To believe is to accept things that you do don't know .Either you know or you don't. Once you know - then you no longer have to believe and belief is the fuel of most religions.

A - Ask ( Psalms 2 ; 8 , Matthew 21 ; 22 , Mark 6 ; 22 , 1John 3 ; 22 , 1 John 5 ; 15 ) .
S - Seek ( Psalms 27 ; 4 , 1Chr 28 ; 9 , 2Chr 34 ; 4 , Romans 3 ; 11 )

K - Knock ( Revelation 3 ; 20 )

Knowledge = correct information which is always logical and reasons out.

Refer To - Christianity Discuss the Christian Faith. - The Bible as History - Ted --- Post # 4 - 8

Bryn Mawr · 03-07-2009, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by avdpent

Once you start searching there is no end to it. Just realize there is nobody who knows. You either believe or you don't believe. The emphasis is on 'believe'. If we are honest we must admit that we are all Agnostics; Christians, Muslims, Hindus ........ as well as Atheists. All are believers. Believe God exists or believe God does not exist. Nobody knows!!!!

You cannot include agnostics in that list - they're the only ones who claim not to know.

spot · 03-07-2009, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryn Mawr

You cannot include agnostics in that list - they're the only ones who claim not to know.

The other problem is that each group means something different by the word "God". While there may be a common core it's swamped by the unique distinctions. I could use the word God in a sense that's meaningful to me but it would be heretical to others. Just settling the meaning of the vocabulary is a major task rarely even attempted.

Daniyal · 03-07-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by spot

The other problem is that each group means something different by the word "God". While there may be a common core it's swamped by the unique distinctions. I could use the word God in a sense that's meaningful to me but it would be heretical to others. Just settling the meaning of the vocabulary is a major task rarely even attempted.

I Just Love The Way You [ Plagiarized ] Words / Things .

qsducks · 03-07-2009, 12:58 PM

I can't help you...I'm too busy with my mind at the moment.

03-07-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by qsducks

I can't help you...I'm too busy with my mind at the moment.

Can I help you with your mind then?

Nomad · 03-10-2009, 11:33 AM

Church shop. Try on so to speak churches in your area. Join bible study groups, theyre intimate and its a place for you to raise questions and doubts.
Get books on tape of the Bible, Koran, Hinduism, and other Eastern religious matter.
Educate yourself and if something coincides with what already lives in you examine it more closely.
Korn was right I think, be skeptical and avoid being pressured. For me personally I have ideas that might not fit in to a replica of any one religion. Its a personal endeavor and no one can tell you its not right upon choosing a belief system. They will but thats their problem.
People will tell you they know, they believe. None of us know until we know.

Nomad · 03-10-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniyal

Belief & Believe" are two of the most deceptive words in religion. Belief is ignorance. Belief is to ignore the facts, intentionally or ignorantly.

You suggest faith is foolish. You cant tell people their faith is unworthy. It belongs to them. Its theirs, not yours to degrade you pompous a**hole.
Your ignorance is blinding. I understand you are unable to recognize this but it might be worth exploring.

Daniyal · 03-10-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nomad

You suggest faith is foolish. You cant tell people their faith is unworthy. It belongs to them. Its theirs, not yours to degrade you pompous a**hole.
Your ignorance is blinding. I understand you are unable to recognize this but it might be worth exploring.

By you calling me ( pompous a**hole ) Tell me you're another one who has a free pass to insulting me , But knowing it your Nature to get something started when someone doesn't agree with your silly faith it to be expect . And it that same blinding light that has you thinking faith going to save you . Now thats is the highest forum Ignorance .

Enjoy having Faith in your [ Plagiarized ] By -Bill

Nomad · 03-10-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniyal

By you calling me ( pompous a**hole ) Tell me you're another one who has a free pass to insulting me , But knowing it your Nature to get something started when someone doesn't agree with your silly faith it to be expect . And it that same blinding light that has you thinking faith going to save you . Now thats is the highest forum Ignorance .

Enjoy having Faith in your [ Plagiarized ] By -Bill

You invite insult. You beg for it because of your ignorance.
My faith ? What could you possibly know about my faith. Assumption is a guess when you dont have a foundation to draw from.
I addressed your condescending darts not your faith.
Seriously dude you need to pause occasionally and consider that you cant believe everything you think.

03-06-2009, 01:46 PM	#41 (permalink)
Daniyal Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,410	Belief vs Knowledge Belief & Believe" are two of the most deceptive words in religion. Belief is ignorance. Belief is to ignore the facts, intentionally or ignorantly. If one has to believe, it means he or she does not know, and if one does not know, that is ignorance. Anyone can believe anything and this means that a person can believe, and be 100% wrong. But knowledge is knowing and knowledge is correct information. "To know" gives one confidence, but belief infers doubt. To believe is to accept things that you do don't know .Either you know or you don't. Once you know - then you no longer have to believe and belief is the fuel of most religions. A - Ask ( Psalms 2 ; 8 , Matthew 21 ; 22 , Mark 6 ; 22 , 1John 3 ; 22 , 1 John 5 ; 15 ) . S - Seek ( Psalms 27 ; 4 , 1Chr 28 ; 9 , 2Chr 34 ; 4 , Romans 3 ; 11 ) K - Knock ( Revelation 3 ; 20 ) Knowledge = correct information which is always logical and reasons out. Refer To - Christianity Discuss the Christian Faith. - The Bible as History - Ted --- Post # 4 - 8
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03-07-2009, 12:58 PM	#45 (permalink)
qsducks Senior Member Supporting Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 22,413	Re: Can someone help me? I can't help you...I'm too busy with my mind at the moment. __________________
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03-10-2009, 11:33 AM	#47 (permalink)
Nomad LIFE IS SHORT...LIVE HARD Supporting Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: LOOK BEHIND YOU Posts: 25,035	Re: Can someone help me? Church shop. Try on so to speak churches in your area. Join bible study groups, theyre intimate and its a place for you to raise questions and doubts. Get books on tape of the Bible, Koran, Hinduism, and other Eastern religious matter. Educate yourself and if something coincides with what already lives in you examine it more closely. Korn was right I think, be skeptical and avoid being pressured. For me personally I have ideas that might not fit in to a replica of any one religion. Its a personal endeavor and no one can tell you its not right upon choosing a belief system. They will but thats their problem. People will tell you they know, they believe. None of us know until we know.
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