a dangerous cult which originated in the middle east

[YZGI]

Originally Posted by joona

Of course I think so, for it's the truth. It only shows how evil they are, as does their practice of ritual cannibalism.

Their beliefs also speak of loving everyone, including ones enemies. Such sexual promiscuity isn't a good thing at all! How could any of them be trusted to behave morally?

Speak for yourself..

[Bill Sikes]

Originally Posted by joona

Of course I think so, for it's the truth (Christians worshipping crucifixes).

What strange ideas you have.

[joona]

Originally Posted by Bill Sikes

What strange ideas you have.

What? Can't accept the truth?

[Bill Sikes]

Originally Posted by joona

What? Can't accept the truth?

Of course I can accept the truth - if you think that Christians worship crucifixes, I'm sure you can supply a mainstream pointer to such a thing. Go on!

[gmc]

Originally Posted by Bill Sikes

Of course I can accept the truth - if you think that Christians worship crucifixes, I'm sure you can supply a mainstream pointer to such a thing. Go on!

The catholic church do. Or rather I know a good few protestants that would argue that they do. No kissing of the cross for them-mind you that kind of discussion has been known to provoke warfare.

[Bryn Mawr]

Originally Posted by joona

What? Can't accept the truth?

A very distorted version of the truth put up with the sole intention of starting an argument :-

1) The children of Adam and Eve are reported as having mated with the Children of God - not with each other

2) To worship the cross would by idolatry which is specifically forbidden within the Christian Bible

3) There is a world of difference between ritual cannibalism and symbolic cannibalism

4) Specifically with consent

As an introductory post starting a discussion about the way we view cults it was interesting to see the reaction you'd get.

As a deliberate attack on the faith of the majority of members here, which your follow up posts show it to be, it is trolling.

[Bill Sikes]

Originally Posted by Bryn Mawr

it is trolling.

QED. Oh well.

[fuzzywuzzy]

Cannibalism of a wafer? ......................So what your saying here is ice cream is canniballistic? Or is that , another wafer is canniballistic ?

Now I'm confused. yes that's right folks I'm pulling an all nighter . been fishing walked along the surf beach ( probably shouldn't have done that.) I'ts 5:30 am and I probably should get some shut eye for at least an hour ...............YES!!! THAT'S RIGHT GOD DAMMIT I'M STRESSED. How much sea air is one supposed to breathe to fall asleep?

[gmc]

Originally Posted by Bryn Mawr

A very distorted version of the truth put up with the sole intention of starting an argument :-

1) The children of Adam and Eve are reported as having mated with the Children of God - not with each other

2) To worship the cross would by idolatry which is specifically forbidden within the Christian Bible

3) There is a world of difference between ritual cannibalism and symbolic cannibalism

4) Specifically with consent

As an introductory post starting a discussion about the way we view cults it was interesting to see the reaction you'd get.

As a deliberate attack on the faith of the majority of members here, which your follow up posts show it to be, it is trolling.

Depends on how you look at it. On one level it is definitely trolling.

On another it raises a serious point. If you're a non believer then both the main middle eastern religions are cults with a ridiculous belief system.

Yet I am not allowed to say that because it is an attack on someone's faith rather than expressing non-belief.

Given that those cult followers are prepared to make war on each other and on those who are not members in order to force their beliefs on to others then it is justifiable to view them as dangerous cults.

But you're not allowed to call them cults because that implies their faith is not the one true one and in actual fact everybody else is in a cult. (or following a false god which for a follower of a monotheistic religion must be a mind boggling concept to take on board).

There have been times when being in the wrong cult or even not in any of the cults would get you burned at the stake as a heretic.

posted by bryn mawr

A very distorted version of the truth put up with the sole intention of starting an argument :-

It's a moot point whether the truth being distorted is actually any kind of truth or simply a fairy story told by stone age people to explain where they came from.

1) The children of Adam and Eve are reported as having mated with the Children of God - not with each other

It's not a truth it is a made up story. Are you saying Jesus Christ had bothers and sisters and he was not the only begotten son sacrificed to save mankind.

2) To worship the cross would by idolatry which is specifically forbidden within the Christian Bible

Well that caused a few wars between sections of the same cult didn't it.

3) There is a world of difference between ritual cannibalism and symbolic cannibalism

So there is. The notion of sacrificing a human to appease a god is a very old one. I suppose of you believe in a supreme being sacrificing children to him is logical on some level.

4) Specifically with consent

Assuming of course you buy in to the whole belief system in the first place. If you don't the consent or otherwise is a bit immaterial.

Clearly there is not much scope for agreement-best agree to disagree and leave it at that perhaps. But religion is dangerous cancer and that the followers feel they should be above criticism and no one should be allowed to make disparaging comments about the belief system or have it questioned in any way kind of makes the point as to how intolerant they are and how dangerous they can be given half a chance and in the right circumstances.

[Ted]

The whole issue is one of failing to understand the nature and purpose of sacred writings whether they be Jewish, Christian or any other.

Shalom
Ted