The Islamic History Of Europe

[Abram Is Muslim]

An Islamic history of Europe



Not everybody knows that Europe was affected so much by the Islamic culture established in Spain for 800 years , that culture later was the aid that forced Europe to wake up , and make that culture she made now , Im not saying everything came from the Islamic culture in Spain ( AL Andalus ), but that culture affected Europe so much , and many western scholars admited that..

This movie tells a different story about Europe , and how the Islamic civilization came through
the Islamic civlization in Al Andalus , where Muslims made an Islamic country in Europe ,
in whats now Spain , this country lasted for 800 years , and just fall in 18th Century ,
Its a great Movie shows how the christians and Jews lived in equivelant life in an Islamic country ,
its produced by BBC , the British Media Organisation.

Watch the movie Online:Here

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When the Moors Ruled in Europe



is a great British documentaryproduced by Wildfire Television for Channel 4 about how the Muslimsruled Spain and what did the made there: from great architecture andCalligraphy to great culture and knowledge.

You Can Watch it Online from here:

[hoppy]

What do you guys do for fun?

[chonsigirl]

Did you know it carried over into the Americas, with the Spanish conquest in the 1500s. Place names still remain which are Arabic in origin.

[AussiePam]

I've been to that area of Spain, and there are some amazing remnants from those times.

Muhamed, I am aware that Egypt has a Coptic Christian community.

Are there any modern non-secular islamic countries where people of other faiths are now allowed to live in peace?

Originally Posted by chonsigirl

Did you know it carried over into the Americas, with the Spanish conquest in the 1500s. Place names still remain which are Arabic in origin.

Sheriff - is an Arab word. There's lots of English words derived from Arabic..

English Words from Arabic

algebra, coffee, kiosk, algorithm, adobe, kohl, lilac, cork, jasmine, lemon, lime, marzipan, tamarind, tambourine, sugar, spinach, zero.

There were some glorious times, for sure, way back then.

[Zapata]

Originally Posted by AussiePam

Sheriff - is an Arab word. There's lots of English words derived from Arabic..

English Words from Arabic

algebra, coffee, kiosk, algorithm, adobe, kohl, lilac, cork, jasmine, lemon, lime, marzipan, tamarind, tambourine, sugar, spinach, zero.

There were some glorious times, for sure, way back then.

It was interesting to see "spinach" on the list. I didn't know that.

[gmc]

Seen it, it is a BBC documentary after all. Are you aware of how much interaction there actually was in the so called dark ages?

VIKINGS IN THE EAST_Remarkable Eyewitness Accounts

The Georgian Mameluks in Egypt

The Georgian Mameluks in Egypt

There was also trade with china and india. The spreading of ideas has not been one way nor did islam or judaism spring up in isolation form the rest of humanity. Good grief the celts even get a mention in the bible and I think the koran as well but i'm not sure. Without the european talent for war and the trading of iron for weapons perhaps the shape of the middle east would be very different indeed.

The more you dig in to it the more you realise we really are all Jock Tamson's Bairns and religion is a divisive force in the world not a unifying one.

[AussiePam]

What is amazing to me, gmc, is that when religion became totally dominant - and I'm not referring to one religion more than another here - scholarship and learning declined, or rather was diverted into the minutiae of scriptural interpretation and legalistic trivialities - is it permissible to press a lift button on the sabbath, is it okay to show half an inch of female ankle, how many angels can you fit on a pinhead, creationism. Totalitarian relgion stifled science, free speech, free movement, debate, education.

[Chockygirl]

Originally Posted by AussiePam

What is amazing to me, gmc, is that when religion became totally dominant - and I'm not referring to one religion more than another here - scholarship and learning declined, or rather was diverted into the minutiae of scriptural interpretation and legalistic trivialities - is it permissible to press a lift button on the sabbath, is it okay to show half an inch of female ankle, how many angels can you fit on a pinhead, creationism. Totalitarian relgion stifled science, free speech, free movement, debate, education.

I agree,Pam.
That seems to happen when religion becomes totally dominant,rather than just an adjuct to a person's many facets of their life.
There always appears to be a controlling of the masses by the church hierarchy as if freedom of thought would lead people astray.

[AussiePam]

Originally Posted by Chockygirl

I agree,Pam.
That seems to happen when religion becomes totally dominant,rather than just an adjuct to a person's many facets of their life.
There always appears to be a controlling of the masses by the church hierarchy.

Sigh.. yes. I suppose we should enjoy the fact that FG seems less dead at the moment. And it's Christmas/Hannukah/Eid for at least one of our Eminent Gardeners. Personally, I'm a bit hohum about one newbie erecting himself a gigantic soapbox from which to get in all our faces. Dialogue takes two, both able to listen as well as preach. Anyway, I don't subscribe too much these days to narrow man-constructed religious rules of any flavour. When I said this early on, I was immediately accused of being an atheist and offered private counselling. Religion has, in my humble opinion which I won't force down anyone's throat, given God/Allah/Yahweh a bad name.

[Abram Is Muslim]

Originally Posted by AussiePam

I've been to that area of Spain, and there are some amazing remnants from those times.

Muhamed, I am aware that Egypt has a Coptic Christian community.

Are there any modern non-secular islamic countries where people of other faiths are now allowed to live in peace?
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Youcan see the Masjids (Mosques) , next to the Churches here, People here live in peace completely, I even put some pictures for Jews in Yeman , they live in poor places in Yeman and refuse to go to Israel , where they can get houses and everything for free, because they are Arab before they are Jews ,and they are Orthdox Jews against the occupying of Israel for Palestine.

And they live in peace , you can even they being affected by the Islamic clothes ,that almost are like the same Orthdox Clothes.