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    Re: When religious discussion is no longer " General."

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    I thought the only answer to come from Deep Thought was 42.
    Douglas Adams confessed once that there was very little thought, deep, or otherwise, put into that.
    "The trouble with people isn't that they don't know, but that they know so much that ain't so."
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    Re: When religious discussion is no longer " General."

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    Douglas Adams confessed once that there was very little thought, deep, or otherwise, put into that.
    And that is really the problem with most religions. Religious people tend to take themselves far too seriously.
    Even Buddhists.
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    Re: When religious discussion is no longer " General."

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    So, then, why are you posting in a religious forum, if you reject all religion?
    (on which you and Mickiel seem to agree.)

    There are people in the world who are perfectly comfortable with their religion and don't have to have other people agree with them.
    You should be as comfortable with your atheism.
    He is, I believe, comfortable with his atheism. If he listened to your advice & didn't comment & give his thoughts, what kind of forum would this be?-------a place where certain threads are designed specifically for those who agree? This is a place of discussion & I am happy to read Ahso!'s comments. Besides, atheists are under no obligation to ignore religion. For example, I generally hate Republicans, yet I tune in to hear their comments & sometimes agree (though rarely) with some things. As well, I don't blame or hate the person having these thoughts-------most people deserve a listener.

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    Re: When religious discussion is no longer " General."

    I am so Anti-Religious that to me it's more like a Religion in itself - if that makes any sense.

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    Re: When religious discussion is no longer " General."

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    I am so Anti-Religious that to me it's more like a Religion in itself - if that makes any sense.
    I understand. I may not agree with such fervor, but I understand.

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    Re: When religious discussion is no longer " General."

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    And that is really the problem with most religions. Religious people tend to take themselves far too seriously.
    Even Buddhists.
    Religion has been arguably helpful in the advancement of the species. Religion is said to have been a prime mover in grouping and socializing, though its been abused here and there by some.

    The point I make is that we now have learned enough about our existence that religion's myths are no longer necessary or relevant. We can now construct the platforms of our commonalities on what we observe in a real sense. We can bond, and had better do so, around what we've learned to be good and constructive to the planet and its inhabitants. Our past beliefs, which are steeped mostly in ignorance have proven harmful to our existence. Our survival depends on our moving beyond the myths of the past and reestablishing or reinventing, if you will, our understanding. We can't do any of that until we begin to communicate with language that reflects today's, as opposed to yesterday's knowledge. This is essential stuff in order to move on and save ourselves, if that's at all possible at this point.

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    Re: When religious discussion is no longer " General."

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    And that is really the problem with most religions. Religious people tend to take themselves far too seriously.
    Even Buddhists.
    Maybe this expresses a need for self-identification through group identification. It's lonely out there.

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    Re: When religious discussion is no longer " General."

    Ahso!: "Our survival depends on our moving beyond the myths of the past and reestablishing or reinventing, if you will, our understanding. We can't do any of that until we begin to communicate with language that reflects today's, as opposed to yesterday's knowledge. This is essential stuff in order to move on and save ourselves, if that's at all possible at this point."

    Tell that to ISIS.

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    Re: When religious discussion is no longer " General."

    I think many people automatically equate religion to be something that God approves of, which I disagree with. But that kind of thinking is not religious in the first place; no person who believes in God, will think that he disapproves of how they think about him. That requires a deeper kind of thought that can see fault in their own selves, their own beliefs, and to get to those points, pride and tradition and self righteousness, has to be removed from the consciousness and you stand naked to the truth of this.

    If an Atheist can remove all thoughts of there being any gods or a God, then a Theist can remove all false conceptions of God, but a lot of them are mired down by what they have accepted into their beliefs. If an Atheist can stand on their knowledge of what is not true and be clear about that, have clarity, then A Theist should be able to do the exact same thing with the knowledge they consume, and have clarity.

    I don't see that in Theism and religion. That ability to chipper away what is myths , foolishness, tradition, surface knowledge, deception, twisted, is seriously lacking and handicapped.

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    Re: When religious discussion is no longer " General."

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnneBoleyn View Post
    Maybe this expresses a need for self-identification through group identification. It's lonely out there.
    Yes it is.
    "The trouble with people isn't that they don't know, but that they know so much that ain't so."
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