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    Re: Saint Teresa of Calcutta

    Only going by what I 've read and heard of this Mother Teresa, I certainly have mixed feelings about just how christian, in fact, she was ! There are some indisputable facts that have emerged over time, concerning some cruel methods she used in her 'ministrations' in the so called 'name of God'. Also that apparently pain is meant to be in order to get closer to God ! This attitude, imo, was so horrifying when it was affecting children ! I feel I cannot find any thoughts one way or another towards this woman. I'm just glad that I am not religious !
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    Re: Saint Teresa of Calcutta

    Interesting history though. There are many different forms of Christianity around the world: some 22 000 to be close. Which one is correct. Whatever it is a personal thing. One mans behavior to one group is a terrorist and to another group a freedom fighter.?????

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    Re: Saint Teresa of Calcutta

    I'm staying out of this thread (See: username) But I will say this: If just performing a few miracles is the basis for sainthood, I totally qualify for the many times I have cheated death in stupid, alcohol-fueled, teenage escapades.

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    Re: Saint Teresa of Calcutta

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    gmc I do agree that discussions should involve all faiths together. I would like to add though Roman Catholics make a choice personally. When they start trying to impose their beliefs my response might be different. I do not expect others to believe as I do. We must each follow our own path.
    Do they make a choice though? That is the origin of the conflict between protestant and catholic - Read the bible for yourself and find your own personal jesus or do you follow the teachings of the bible as laid down by the catholic church which used to burn people as heretics for daring to print the bible in the language spoken by ordinary people so they could read it for themselves. Questioning the nicene creed used to be downright dangerous.

    Catholics, or any relgion come to that, can make a choice to stay or join in a religion but arguably having it drummed in to you from childhood that failing to comply means you go to hell is quite a hard thing to walk away from.

    Like I said earlier the best defence I heard was that she was a good catholic following the faith.

    “Pain and suffering have come into your life, but remember pain, sorrow, suffering are but the kiss of Jesus - a sign that you have come so close to Him that He can kiss you.”

    ― Mother Teresa
    No doubt she believed what she said whether you think that makes her a good catholic or a good person is up to you. Sadly making observations such as the above leaves me open to the charge of merely being anti-catholic thus in some weird way somehow making it not real. .

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    Re: Saint Teresa of Calcutta

    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_ View Post
    I'm staying out of this thread (See: username) But I will say this: If just performing a few miracles is the basis for sainthood, I totally qualify for the many times I have cheated death in stupid, alcohol-fueled, teenage escapades.
    You too huh? Lol actually not so much alcohol fuelled.....just blind bravado and stupidity. I was definately running out of lives . And then you have children! And you begin to remember all those stupid things that could be repeated .

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    gmc great post. I've been studying the Bible for some 55 years both formally and informally. I've learned to translate both the Hebrew OT and the Greek NT. KI do not accept dogma or doctrine as they are man's thing. I fallow my .own path as we must each do. Am I right or wrong? I sure as hell don't know. The central tenets of all of the great faiths were originally justice in the equatable sharing of all the earths resources, which we don't have, and compassion. I try to follow the teachings of Jesus as the great human being he was. I have learned an approach to understanding the Bible from a Jewish scholar, The Rev Rabbi Dr. Daum at the Vancouver School of Theology which is basically an open type of institution.. I try to be very reluctant to judge others. It's the old idea of Don't judge a man, person, until you've walked a mile in his/her moccasins. The best outline of Jesus' teachings are to be found in Matthew 25 where we are told to clothe the naked, feed the hungry, care for the sick and dying, visit those in prison etc. A lot of the Bible is in itself midrash and ancient Jewish style of writing and interpreting. The modern view is more interpretation. The Bible like all ancient sacred texts were not to be taken literally. I have studied at WLU< Ottawa U, x2, some at Queens and some at UBC as well as my personal associations with some of the world's top scholars. This is not in any way to brag these are simply facts.

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    Re: Saint Teresa of Calcutta

    I know that Mother Therese has helped many. Whether or not I agree with her theology is unimportant but I have not walked a mile in her shoes. As Pope Francis, while I'm not a Catholic has said "Who am I to judge"?

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    Well Ted i was raised strict roman catholic.....i dont consider myself one anymore, yet to hand in my resigmation yet and officially renounce(its a lot of paperwork)
    We as children were told to pray to Theresa as a living saint as you pray to Mary or other saints. If id been allowed to read the bible at an earlier age i would have lknown this to be wrong.

    We had bible study at school until year twelve girls used the bible to prove that Mary was not a virgin. After this we were heavily supervised. Lol.

    What amazes me is that there are a lot of people who do exactly what theresa did. Like i said before its only the business of Catholics, but she came to peoples attention because she fought quite often the church itself.

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    Re: Saint Teresa of Calcutta

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    I know that Mother Therese has helped many. Whether or not I agree with her theology is unimportant but I have not walked a mile in her shoes. As Pope Francis, while I'm not a Catholic has said "Who am I to judge"?
    It's not her theology that's the issue it's her actions. If, as is suggested, her theology led her to not give medicine to those in need because it brought them closer to god if a non religious person did that it would be regarded as sadistic neglect. I'm sorry but her actions can be judged her christian morality is not somehow superior to everyone elses

    If the theology leads a fundamentalist muslim to blow himself up iin defence of his religion then his theology is not a justification imo. If the religious prevent access to contraception in aids written countries or soon to be zika virus epidemic ones because iof their faith then i'm sorry just because I don't agree with their theology does not mean I or anyone should not be able to comment. If it was only themselves they sought to govern there would be no issue.

    While we're at it i find it deeply hypocritical that the pope can visit auschwitz and not even acknowledge the part two thousand years of teaching the jews killed jesus played in those events

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    gmc as I said earlier there are some 22000 variations on the theme. Many of them claim that they and they alone have the only truth. There are so many views and instances of misuse of the Christian message in the world today. Look at xFrod he claims the only true Christianity is fundamentalism. Historically that is pure nonsense.. The Jews did not kill Jesus of Nazareth it was the Roman army and authorities. He was killed for subversive behavior and treason. He was seen as a threat to the state. And yes some of the Gospel writers did seem to blame the Jews but they too were Jews with maybe the exception of Luke who may have been a gentile. You have one sense of morality, which I don't contest but others have a different view. I think that morality also depends on the situation. There is no black and white as such.

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