Center for Disease Control says:

[Accountable]

Originally Posted by gmc

Is it not a case that your biggest problem is a gun culture? Even if you banned all guns tomorrow it will be decades before it makes any difference.

What difference are you trying to make? The biggest problem is not the "gun culture;" it is gun control. The murder capitals we're always hearing about are the cities with the tightest gun control. The small towns where everybody owns guns has far fewer firearm incidents per capita, I believe.

There's a place in Florida that had a drop in the crime rate when gun controls were relaxed.

[MicahLorain]

Originally Posted by Accountable

What difference are you trying to make? The biggest problem is not the "gun culture;" it is gun control. The murder capitals we're always hearing about are the cities with the tightest gun control. The small towns where everybody owns guns has far fewer firearm incidents per capita, I believe.

There's a place in Florida that had a drop in the crime rate when gun controls were relaxed.

I found spellcheck! I'm not a supporter of gun bans but there should be regulation so they arent sold like packs of cigarettes. the us has a very high crime rate compared to the countries of europe and australia, nz, japan and canada. they restrict guns to. the ones that want to flood our cities with guns should try raising a family in a ghetto full of guns and scores of dead kids to back it up. its easy to lust for guns in the boonies!

[BabyRider]

Originally Posted by MicahLorain

there should be regulation so they arent sold like packs of cigarettes.

Umm...There are.

Originally Posted by MicahLorain

the us has a very high crime rate compared to the countries of europe and australia, nz, japan and canada.

There is crime everywhere. Even in countries that don't allow guns. Do some research, heck in this very forum there are plenty of threads with statistics for you to look at.

Originally Posted by MicahLorain

its easy to lust for guns in the boonies!

I don't get what you mean by this...
You still seem to have this attitude about gun owners in general, and it's a mistaken one.

[Clint]

Originally Posted by MicahLorain

I found spellcheck! I'm not a supporter of gun bans but there should be regulation so they arent sold like packs of cigarettes. the us has a very high crime rate compared to the countries of europe and australia, nz, japan and canada. they restrict guns to. the ones that want to flood our cities with guns should try raising a family in a ghetto full of guns and scores of dead kids to back it up. its easy to lust for guns in the boonies!

I was born and raised in the Idaho boonies. I have guns. That must mean I “lust” for guns. Hey, makes sense to me.

[MicahLorain]

Originally Posted by Clint

I was born and raised in the Idaho boonies. I have guns. That must mean I “lust” for guns. Hey, makes sense to me.

one little sample of the hilarity of gunworship- 2 8year olds shot to death by driveby shooter aiming for his exgirlfriends house. they were cute. now their pigtails are soaked in blood. real funny! perp stole gun from registered owner and killed him to. very funny

[BabyRider]

Originally Posted by MicahLorain

one little sample of the hilarity of gunworship- 2 8year olds shot to death by driveby shooter aiming for his exgirlfriends house. they were cute. now their pigtails are soaked in blood. real funny! perp stole gun from registered owner and killed him to. very funny

Tossing out a few examples of the criminals who use their guns for harm is just ridiculous. You are the one who brought up phrases like "gun-nuts", "gun-worshippers" "lust" and other such nonsense. I am fully aware of the criminals who do harm with guns. Most gun owners are. Why do you think we're gun owners? Have you ever actually researched this topic, or are you reacting strictly from an emotional standpoint? Do you actually know anything about guns, gun owners, the laws governing ownership, the NRA, or ANYTHING other than your little blurbs from stories we have all heard a thousand times and hate just as much as you do because it casts a pall over ALL gun owners, no matter HOW responsible we are?? Have you even bothered to look at any statistics? Or are you just spouting news stories from the anti-gun media that you've read or heard?

[Clint]

Originally Posted by MicahLorain

one little sample of the hilarity of gunworship- 2 8year olds shot to death by driveby shooter aiming for his exgirlfriends house. they were cute. now their pigtails are soaked in blood. real funny! perp stole gun from registered owner and killed him to. very funny

That is a very sad story. My condolences to everyone who was affected by it..

That doesn’t change the fact that it is the one who did the shooting that should be the focus of outrage. Putting the gun in prison won’t solve a thing. The people where these things are happening have been complacent too long. They should be rising up against the low life forms that do these things. It is easier to blame guns though… No hard work involved in that.

[BabyRider]

Originally Posted by gmc

Is it not a case that your biggest problem is a gun culture? Even if you banned all guns tomorrow it will be decades before it makes any difference.

Not quite...If all guns were banned tomorrow the difference would be seen immediately. The criminals, who will keep getting and using guns will take full advantage of an unarmed society and it will be utter chaos. Not decades from now, but immediately.
You are familiar with Washington, D.C., I assume? Why do you think it is the "Murder capitol of the world"? Because guns are banned. The society there cannot protect itself. How strange...the city where guns are banned has the highest murder rate...how very ironic...

[MicahLorain]

Originally Posted by BabyRider

Tossing out a few examples of the criminals who use their guns for harm is just ridiculous. You are the one who brought up phrases like "gun-nuts", "gun-worshippers" "lust" and other such nonsense. I am fully aware of the criminals who do harm with guns. Most gun owners are. Why do you think we're gun owners? Have you ever actually researched this topic, or are you reacting strictly from an emotional standpoint? Do you actually know anything about guns, gun owners, the laws governing ownership, the NRA, or ANYTHING other than your little blurbs from stories we have all heard a thousand times and hate just as much as you do because it casts a pall over ALL gun owners, no matter HOW responsible we are?? Have you even bothered to look at any statistics? Or are you just spouting news stories from the anti-gun media that you've read or heard?

i dont need a college course in guns to form an opinion. i dont want guns banned. i think the more guns that are out there the more that filter down to street thugs, i live in a big great lakes city and kids are killed all the time with guns. not knives or tobacco or bare hands. guns kill people and i dont want one. owners be sure to remember if your gun is sold or stolen the life that can be taken with it down the road will be remembered on judment day. those girls would be alive now if the registered owner hadnt bought it to start with. keep guns legal, and hold original owners responsible for any crime it shows up at. THAT is responsibility.

[BabyRider]

You are again mistaken, ML. The criminal that shot that child would have gotten a gun from anywhere he could have, legitimate owner or not. Everyone, (yourself included) wants to blame the responsible, law-abiding gun owners for the criminals behavior. Doesn't anyone see a major problem with that? Forget that the criminals will always break the law, hold the original owner responsible.
If someone were to break into my home, when it was empty, with the intent of stealing my guns, they would have to bring a big damn crane and a blowtorch to get into my safe. And what if they did? What if someone KNEW how I stored my guns, as safely as I possibly can, and brought the necessary tools to get them and then committed a murder with one of my guns? Should I be brought up on murder charges? I train with my guns, all the time, I know how to handle each one safely and we are teaching our kids how to handle them safely, and with RESPECT. I do everything possible to maintain my guns the safest way I can. So. In your opinion, if a criminal were to get one of them, and use it to kill someone, I should be held accountable? Thank god I live in America where that ain't gonna happen.