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Old 08-27-2005, 10:33 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: Whoooa what is wrong with this picture?

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Damn. I wonder why, if the Senator is trying out a gun for the first time, and IS anti-gun, would they give him this piece of crap to fire?
Love it! I was thinking exactly the same thing.
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Hah! Who's the yuckster?
And I have the same issue with any 'pro' or 'con' issue that posts something without a context. Anyone who does it loses credibility.
Here's one of the few where yucky chuckie was having fun out on the range with those assault weapons that just up and shoot people all by themselves. The caption was simply " Senator Schumer having fun on the range"...



September 13, 2004

Check out that look of sheer joy on his face as he's eliminating all his competition to the Big House on the Hilll...
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Sarah Brady skirted gun laws in buying son's rifle
New York Daily News March 22, 2002
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WASHINGTON - Gun-control advocate Sarah Brady bought her son a powerful rifle for Christmas in 2000 - and may have skirted Delaware state background-check requirements, the New York Daily News has learned.

Brady reveals in a new memoir that she bought James Brady Jr. a Remington .30-06, complete with scope and safety lock, at a Lewes, Del., gun shop.

"I can't describe how I felt when I picked up that rifle, loaded it into my little car and drove home," she writes. "It seemed so incredibly strange: Sarah Brady, of all people, packing heat."

Brady became a household name as a crusader for stricter gun-control laws after her husband, James, then the White House press secretary, was seriously wounded in a 1981 assassination attempt on then-President Ronald Reagan.

Brady writes in "A Good Fight" that the unnamed gun shop ran federal Brady Law and Delaware state background checks with great fanfare.

The book suggests that she did not have her son checked, as required by Delaware state law.

"(W)hen the owner called in the checks, it seemed to me he spoke unnecessarily loudly, repeating and spelling my name over and over on the phone," Brady writes.

Amy Stillwell, a spokeswoman for The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said the federal Brady Law does not require background checks for intrafamily gun gifts.

Stillwell said she did not know whether her son was checked under the state law. The Delaware Department of Justice says the state does not have an exemption for family gifts.

"Scott is not a convicted felon, and he is not prohibited from owning a gun," Stillwell said. "Scott Brady could walk into a store and buy a - he is not a prohibited purchaser."

Delaware Justice Department spokeswoman Lori Sitler said the purchase could be illegal under state law if Brady did not also say who she was buying the gun for and submit his "name, rank and serial number" for a full check.

"You can't purchase a gun for someone else," Sitler said yesterday. "That would be a 'straw purchase.' You've got a problem right there."

Anti-gun control advocates were surprised to hear of Brady's foray into their world.

"We hope that it's innocuous and there's been no laws violated," said James Jay Baker, chief lobbyist for the National Rifle Association. "It's obviously interesting that Sarah would be purchasing firearms of any kind for anybody, given her championing of restrictive guns laws for everyone." --- (c) 2002, New York Daily News.

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While searching for the above to test the browser and see if I had all the bugaboo's worked out.. I came across a number of articles, one that came up most often was the hubbabub over Chucky's big campaign contributions from COLT Firearms.. which didn't surprise me cuz I knew the owner during period of the articles was vehemently antigun, but he sure liked the money it made him, apparenlty Chucky did too !

Its interesting how all the kings and queens of the antigun lot have armed bodyguards.... Feinstein, Chucky, Rosie, Michael Moore, Boxer....odder yet is that they feel someone in the progun camps would even want to waste their time over them. Their odds of being shot would be more with the mad and bad out there in the human ranks which puts the ruling elite into the same odds as the rest of us that can't have armed bodyguards cuz we're NOT important enough... but we are important enough to work and pay taxes that goes into their pockets..

Hmmm... maybe we should remind them of THAT FACT. As for credibility, doesn't seem to matter to the antigun lot even when they have the verified facts and stats given to them, they still "run with it" however they want it to sound. I can remember a televised debate we did on Channel 11 with Calloway years back.. at least 12 years ago if not more... the antigun side when presented with facts by our side completely disputing what they had just vomited up on public television, did a quick turn and one man relied.. So what if this is the facts, that doesn't mean anything. Even Calloway sat there giving this guy the "DUH" look.... I said to the man, "what do you mean it doesn't matter ?, it just proves everything you are citing is incorrect !".. he changed the subject abruptly..

What's the name of that wacky holophobe Priest here on the south side of Chicago that is doing the gun buy backs illegally ? One of the activist groups
I'm still involved in challenged him in the press over the fact what he's doing is illegal, you cannot buy, trade and sell guns without an FFL license.. The Priest is doing in essence what he's accusing others of doing illegally. Reporter agreed and asked him what was his reason... God told him to do it he said.. and therefore he didn't need any license, beside he's not a criminal was his further comment, he's a priest. Someone reminded him all of us confronting him had no prior arrests for anything either, we were not criminals either but he wanted us disarmed and was on the bandwagon with Daley and others that if we did not
surrender our firearms we should be arrested and jailed and loose our homes. Yes, he thought that was a good idea and fair. "DUH ????? "

Nice guy, glad I'm not Catholic.

Puter seems fixed, all seems to be working normally - its almost 1AM I can go to bed now... Nite all..
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Old 08-28-2005, 12:10 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Re: Whoooa what is wrong with this picture?

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Here's one of the few where yucky chuckie was having fun out on the range with those assault weapons that just up and shoot people all by themselves. The caption was simply " Senator Schumer having fun on the range"...



September 13, 2004

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Sarah Brady skirted gun laws in buying son's rifle
New York Daily News March 22, 2002
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WASHINGTON - Gun-control advocate Sarah Brady bought her son a powerful rifle for Christmas in 2000 - and may have skirted Delaware state background-check requirements, the New York Daily News has learned.

Brady reveals in a new memoir that she bought James Brady Jr. a Remington .30-06, complete with scope and safety lock, at a Lewes, Del., gun shop.

"I can't describe how I felt when I picked up that rifle, loaded it into my little car and drove home," she writes. "It seemed so incredibly strange: Sarah Brady, of all people, packing heat."

Brady became a household name as a crusader for stricter gun-control laws after her husband, James, then the White House press secretary, was seriously wounded in a 1981 assassination attempt on then-President Ronald Reagan.

Brady writes in "A Good Fight" that the unnamed gun shop ran federal Brady Law and Delaware state background checks with great fanfare.

The book suggests that she did not have her son checked, as required by Delaware state law.

"(W)hen the owner called in the checks, it seemed to me he spoke unnecessarily loudly, repeating and spelling my name over and over on the phone," Brady writes.

Amy Stillwell, a spokeswoman for The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said the federal Brady Law does not require background checks for intrafamily gun gifts.

Stillwell said she did not know whether her son was checked under the state law. The Delaware Department of Justice says the state does not have an exemption for family gifts.

"Scott is not a convicted felon, and he is not prohibited from owning a gun," Stillwell said. "Scott Brady could walk into a store and buy a - he is not a prohibited purchaser."

Delaware Justice Department spokeswoman Lori Sitler said the purchase could be illegal under state law if Brady did not also say who she was buying the gun for and submit his "name, rank and serial number" for a full check.

"You can't purchase a gun for someone else," Sitler said yesterday. "That would be a 'straw purchase.' You've got a problem right there."

Anti-gun control advocates were surprised to hear of Brady's foray into their world.

"We hope that it's innocuous and there's been no laws violated," said James Jay Baker, chief lobbyist for the National Rifle Association. "It's obviously interesting that Sarah would be purchasing firearms of any kind for anybody, given her championing of restrictive guns laws for everyone." --- (c) 2002, New York Daily News.

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While searching for the above to test the browser and see if I had all the bugaboo's worked out.. I came across a number of articles, one that came up most often was the hubbabub over Chucky's big campaign contributions from COLT Firearms.. which didn't surprise me cuz I knew the owner during period of the articles was vehemently antigun, but he sure liked the money it made him, apparenlty Chucky did too !

Its interesting how all the kings and queens of the antigun lot have armed bodyguards.... Feinstein, Chucky, Rosie, Michael Moore, Boxer....odder yet is that they feel someone in the progun camps would even want to waste their time over them. Their odds of being shot would be more with the mad and bad out there in the human ranks which puts the ruling elite into the same odds as the rest of us that can't have armed bodyguards cuz we're NOT important enough... but we are important enough to work and pay taxes that goes into their pockets..

Hmmm... maybe we should remind them of THAT FACT.

Puter seems fixed, all seems to be working normally - its almost 1AM I can go to bed now... Nite all..

Thanks for all that info! Nite!
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Old 08-28-2005, 05:59 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Yes there is something wrong or distorted with what you posted. You apparently don't have any idea of the context of that picture. That picture, without context, is simply a blip in time captured in a frame. Totally meanlingless unless you have 50 shots before and after for us to make a judgement on. Someone at his shoulder could have been making a joke. He could have gas. He could be laughing because he can't believe he's standing there holding a gun. And yeah, he could even be enjoying having his hands on a gun. The posibilities are endless, without the context.

I bet BTS can find out what was going on when this was taken. He's always able to find stuff. In the meantime, i just think you can get your point across better if you back up what you post with facts. That's all.


The first thing I notice is that it is a Reuters photo making it a legit picture and probably a photo opt for Schumer.
Not sure why he would be shooting a gun when he has for years tried to take Americans guns out of their very hands.

Flop, I have not seen you take a stand either way on the gun issue but if you know Schumers record on guns you might think it hypocritical to say the least.
I think that was his point of the post, cut and dry.
Remember the title of thread is
"Whoooa what is wrong with this picture?"

I know for you gun grabbers it is hard to see your poster boy with a gun in his feeble little hands. I think that is why the thread was hyjacked from the actual picture and what it represents to, hey no facts with it pal.
The fact is he has a gun in in his sweaty little paws and has or is about to fire it.......... FACT!!!!

Fact he wants to disarm American citizens.



The guy talks out of both sides of his....well umm...... Mouth
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Chuck Schumer who stated, during an April 5, 1995 hearing of the House Subcommittee on Crime, "The Second Amendment…does not guarantee the mythical individual right to bear arms we will hear argued for today."

Said Schumer in a May 8, 2002 press release: "The broad principle that there is an individual right to bear arms is shared by many Americans, including myself."
HUH??????????

"Gun-banning Senator Charles Schumer has displayed incredible hypocrisy when it comes to the Second Amendment," said Larry Pratt, Executive Director of Gun Owners of America. "Schumer does not trust Americans to own guns, but that does not keep him from thinking that he is special. Schumer's elitism justifies his traveling with an armed New York City detective to protect him. Too bad if the rest of us cannot afford to hire armed police detectives. "It gets to be too much to bear when Schumer protests that he believes in the Second Amendment and the right to bear arms. If Schumer supports the Second Amendment, then Hitler was a Zionist. Schumer wants us to accept the Humpty Dumpty line that 'words mean what I make them mean.' "If Schumer supports the Second Amendment, we challenge him to introduce Rep. Hostettler's H.R. 990 in the Senate. This bill would have each state recognize the concealed carry permits issued by other states the way driver's licenses are recognized," Pratt observed.
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That particular photo was taken a number of years back when Schumer and a few other antigun senators went to the FBI and ATF ranges to shoot some of the same firearms they had been demonizing for years since none of them had really a clue what they were talking about. It was used on the network nightly
news here in the Chicago area a number of times at that particular time frame and resurrected again when the Brady Law was coming up to either be resurrected or allowed to die as it should.

The same photo only in video was also shown on one of the primetime network news magazines like 20/20, 60 minutes or one of those things as part of an interview with Schumer. When asked if he enjoyed himself shooting it he admitted it was a lot of fun, but it was under controlled circumstances with professionals around him.

whooppeee dooo - what the hell does the nitwit think most avid shooters do ? We do shoot under controlled circumstances and we ARE the professionals.. would you like to see my self defense Trainers card/permit ?????

The bad guys with the guns are the gangbangers, the criminals and those that have them with the sole intent to do harm... the rest of us take our ownership and use seriously and don't treat them as toys like the antigun lot seem to think we do. But most anti's arent' talking fact anyways so we might as well be spitting at the wall trying to "educate" any of them.. I gave up years ago - let them live in their paranoia and delusional world .. it will bite them hard some day.

.. funny side note... when we were crossing from 1999 into 2000 there was so much stupid hype in the Chicago area network stations about the possibility of certain groups and people in areas taking the celebrating too far and it might
turn into a looting and out of control situation... So of course all the antigun paranoids had themselves PRIMED for just such an event even though nothing even close to it ever happened... but they "were ready" at the same time and all over the Chicago Tribune and the Daily Hearld with their paranoid ed ops and on the local network TV stations wringing their hands and crying to Richie "fatboy" Daley for more guncontrol... the mushroom people turds known as my neighbors all subscribe to that particular state of mind... for years they have seen us come and go with gun cases or rifle cases loaded into the van or truck for practice trips to the range, trainng classes we were conducting, competition shoots etc... and in 16 years living here have never had ONE incident of anything that had to do with our firearms.. but they fear them all the same. 2 days before Jan 1, 2000 we have a gaggle of the neighborhood men (and I use that term so loosely) on my door stoop ringing my bell asking to come in and talk to "us"...

They had come as a group to ask us that "in the case of a gang of looters and
mayhem" in our silly little city (which equates to the Hispanic population on the east end in the apartments)... could they "count on us, me and hubby" to be fully armed and ready to take on anyone that might come up the cul du sac with
ill will towards the people living here and would we be good enough to protect
all of them and their homes like they know we would be doing for ours ?"....

This was a "serious discussion"... honestly, no kidding although hubby and myself had to contain ourselves from breaking out in hysterics and throwing the lot of whinning yuppies out... We gave each other this stern long silent look like we were seriously considering it - he winked at me and then he replied .. Yeah ok
I guess so - that means one of you guys has to go out and get me batteries for my night vision though...

they did... and as we predicted not a damn thing happend other than the worse of the lot's 2 idiot teenage son's set their roof on fire briefly with out of control fireworks in drunken stupors. .... But they fear our firearms.. go figure.
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And what's wrong with being hypocritical? it's not a crime you know. As a matter of fact we are all hypocritical at one time or another.

85% of all people think they are better drivers than 90% of the rest.

That's mathematically impossible and shows that we are all, to a certain extent, hypocritical.
Nothing wrong with being hypocritcal since we all do it at one time or another,
you are correct in that assumption, HOWEVER, the vast majority of us are NOT
FEDERAL US SENATORS with a lifer seat that have the people of a nation under their finger of control with their vote and their influence over people due to their time in office and all the movers and shakers they can manipulate due to their voting power. Therefore when someone such as Yuckie Chuckie demonizes a whole section of the law abiding population for a sport and item they use and like that he doesn't and spends a good portion of his public life devoted to taking the firearms away from the people that do not abuse them and abuse others with them, to "have fun with them" because he can due to his high ranking political position is not only being a hyprocrite but makes him a elitest pig as far as I'm concerned. It amounts to Marie telling the starving people of Paris to eat cake while she stuffed her fat face watching them die of starvation around her and did nothing but demonnize them and be a "hyprocite" about that situation where she
had control as well. Too bad we still don't have the guillotine... I can think of a lot in the big house in DC that could use a taste of it... they could think of it as "reality TV" !
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Thanks A.... past few months it was nuts here with the Biz... no time for anything but work, work and more work, then I had some major computer crashes with both my notebook and then the net towers... have a new notebook up and running and now I have to play puter Doc and get the towers up and going
and debugged as well... who resurrected this string ? I was kinda shocked to see the posts up again with a December date when we did this a couple of months ago... but some of it is well worth saying again. Need to check on some shipments ... check back here with you 'all later. Happy Winter... hope
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