Titanic Fanatic

[lady cop]

hello Nearman, and welcome to FG. ........i wish my dad were alive so i could ask him, he was a well-known metallurgist and invented the charpy-V drop-weight test. his test was used on a piece of Titanic's hull, and it was determined to be brittle. but you are correct, it was state-of-the-art for its time.

[Shweet tatersalad]

why is nothing ever mentioed about the poor poeple locked behind bars below the deck too die.No one ever thuoght too try too help them.

[StupidCowboyTricks]

Originally Posted by lady cop

hello Nearman, and welcome to FG. ........i wish my dad were alive so i could ask him, he was a well-known metallurgist and invented the charpy-V drop-weight test. his test was used on a piece of Titanic's hull, and it was determined to be brittle. but you are correct, it was state-of-the-art for its time.

How old would your dad be today?

[lady cop]

Originally Posted by StupidCowboyTricks

How old would your dad be today?

he was born in 1917. after ballard found the ship, pieces of the hull were brought up and taken to woods hole oceanagraphic institute on cape cod. then sent on to naval research laboratory where my dad's tests were performed. ...as i type this 'a night to remember' is on TCM, so it made me think of this thread.

[Uncle Kram]

Titanic historians believe that many more expeditions should be undertaken to discover the true events of that fateful night. I don't think we'll ever get the full picture but all the evidence is still down there. What we know so far is only the tip of the iceberg

[Bez]

I have been to the Shipwreck Museum in Cornwall. They have a very interesting Titanic display.

www.shipwreckcharlestown.com

[Raven]

Originally Posted by lady cop

i've had an abiding interest in the Titanic tragedy for most of my life.......here is a new item that caught my eye. anyone else here interested in Titanic legend and lore? ~~(sorry, i don't know why blue links don't work)~~~
Scientists Make Titanic DiscoveriesMonday, December 05, 2005

FALMOUTH, Mass. — Undersea explorers said Monday that the discovery of more wreckage from the Titanic suggests that the luxury liner broke into three sections — not two, as commonly thought — and thus sank faster than previously believed.
"The breakup and sinking of the Titanic has never been accurately depicted," Parks Stephenson, a Titanic historian, said at a conference at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute.
The ocean liner that was billed as "unsinkable" by its owner struck an iceberg on its maiden voyage and went down in the North Atlantic on April 14, 1912. About 1,500 people were killed.
Undersea explorer Robert Ballard located the bulk of the wreck in 1985, at a depth of 13,000 feet and about 380 miles southeast of Newfoundland. He declared that the ship had broken into two major sections, and that is the way the sinking was portrayed in the 1997 movie about he catastrophe.
However, the latest expedition, sponsored by the History Channel, found two hull pieces, each roughly 40 feet by 90 feet and lying about a third of a mile from the rest of the wreck. The explorers said the location of the wreckage indicates that the ship's bottom came off the ship intact — constituting a third major piece — and later broke in two.

I've been a titanic fanatic for AGES! Have you read the actual transcripts of the new york hearing? It's a fascinating book! I went to see the artifacts in the titanic tour of a few years ago. They were heart wrenching!

[Shweet tatersalad]

Originally Posted by Shweet tatersalad

why is nothing ever mentioned about the poor people locked behind bars below the deck too die.No one ever thought too try too help them.

As you see,the voice's of the poor are never heard and ignored like the ones on that fatal ship that night,rest in peace my fellow poor.We have not forgotten you.

[SmellTheColor9]

I've always been intrested in the Titanic disaster. It's so dark and romantic.

[gmc]

posted by nearman

I believe Ballard was aware of the broken center sections of the Titanic wreck, he mentions them in his book "Discovery of the Titanic" and they are sketched as part of the debris field in Charles Pellegrino"s excellent book "Ghosts of the Titanic".
Walter Lord dismisses the theory of "brittle steel" as a myth in his sequel book to "A Night To Remember".., "The Night Lives On"...indeed the engineers at Harland and Wolff shipyards still regard the Titanic as "the finest ship we ever built".Evidently the quality of the steel was equal to the technology of the day.

It's not a myth, the steel used was the best available at the time but no one knew the effects extreme cold would have on steel. It wasnnt until WW" when liberty ships kept bteaking in two while on arctic convoys that the problem came to light and the scientific explanation found.


http://www-g.eng.cam.ac.uk/125/nofla...50/tipper.html

Constance Tipper was one of the first women to take the Natural Sciences Tripos, in 1915. Her major research contribution was to discover why during the Second World War the Liberty Ships were breaking in two.

Working from the Engineering Department in Cambridge, Tipper established that there is a critical temperature below which the fracture in steel changes from ductile to brittle. The Liberty Ships in the North Atlantic were subjected to such low temperatures that they would have been susceptible to brittle failure.

The full implications of her work were not realised until the 1950s but after that, the ‘Tipper test’ became the standard method for determining this form of brittleness in steel.