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Old 01-11-2006, 03:08 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The glyphs are a result of both erosion of the stone surface (evident elsewhere in the temple) and the process of filling in and re-carving the stone to replace some of the original hieroglyphics. The technical term for such a surface that has been written on more than once is a palimpsest. The usurping and modifying of inscriptions was common in ancient Egypt throughout its history. The Abydos glyph was modified at least once in antiquity, and perhaps twice. Some of the filling has fallen out in places where the older and the newer inscriptions overlap, and the result is unique and odd-looking.

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when? where? and how? i dont see no signs of erosion, i suppose untill you see it with your own eyes you can never tell.
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Old 01-12-2006, 01:02 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The glyphs are a result of both erosion of the stone surface (evident elsewhere in the temple) and the process of filling in and re-carving the stone to replace some of the original hieroglyphics. The technical term for such a surface that has been written on more than once is a palimpsest. The usurping and modifying of inscriptions was common in ancient Egypt throughout its history. The Abydos glyph was modified at least once in antiquity, and perhaps twice. Some of the filling has fallen out in places where the older and the newer inscriptions overlap, and the result is unique and odd-looking.
Just got email from The British Museum, they agree also,

Thank you for your enquiry. I'm afraid the Ancient Egyptians did not have helicopters or light aircraft. The illusion is the result of a palimpsest. Originally a portion of the royal titulary of Seti I was carved on the architrave. It read 'Who repulses the nine bows'. Later, this section was recarved to represent a portion of the titulary of his son Rameses II. It reads 'Who protects Egypt and overthrows the foreign countries'. During the recarving, portions of the older hieroglyphs were filled in with plaster and new hieroglyphs directly overlapped the old. Through time as the stone wears and plaster drops away, portions of the underlying hieroglyphs, that were not totally removed, have become visible thus creating the illusion. Hieroglyphic versions of both titularies may be found in the following reference:
von Beckerath, J. 1984. Handbuch der aegyptischen Koenigsnamen, Muenchner aegptologische Studien 20, 235, 237.

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Just got email from The British Museum, they agree also,

Thank you for your enquiry. I'm afraid the Ancient Egyptians did not have helicopters or light aircraft. The illusion is the result of a palimpsest. Originally a portion of the royal titulary of Seti I was carved on the architrave. It read 'Who repulses the nine bows'. Later, this section was recarved to represent a portion of the titulary of his son Rameses II. It reads 'Who protects Egypt and overthrows the foreign countries'. During the recarving, portions of the older hieroglyphs were filled in with plaster and new hieroglyphs directly overlapped the old. Through time as the stone wears and plaster drops away, portions of the underlying hieroglyphs, that were not totally removed, have become visible thus creating the illusion. Hieroglyphic versions of both titularies may be found in the following reference:
von Beckerath, J. 1984. Handbuch der aegyptischen Koenigsnamen, Muenchner aegptologische Studien 20, 235, 237.

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Re: The Abydos temple helicopter

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Just got email from The British Museum, they agree also,

Thank you for your enquiry. I'm afraid the Ancient Egyptians did not have helicopters or light aircraft. The illusion is the result of a palimpsest. Originally a portion of the royal titulary of Seti I was carved on the architrave. It read 'Who repulses the nine bows'. Later, this section was recarved to represent a portion of the titulary of his son Rameses II. It reads 'Who protects Egypt and overthrows the foreign countries'. During the recarving, portions of the older hieroglyphs were filled in with plaster and new hieroglyphs directly overlapped the old. Through time as the stone wears and plaster drops away, portions of the underlying hieroglyphs, that were not totally removed, have become visible thus creating the illusion. Hieroglyphic versions of both titularies may be found in the following reference:
von Beckerath, J. 1984. Handbuch der aegyptischen Koenigsnamen, Muenchner aegptologische Studien 20, 235, 237.

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"I'm afraid the Ancient Egyptians did not have helicopters or light aircraft. "

I thought that was funny too,
cheaky so and so's, i never said they did,
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if it was just one hieroglyph looking like a modern craft i might be convinced that it was a coincidence, but there are four on the same piece of stone. just because there is no direct proof that they had helicopters doesnt mean that they didnt have them. having aircraft would have made the pyramid biulding process a lot easier and explain what the so called experts still cant. how they managed to raise heavy stone to great heights.

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if it was just one hieroglyph looking like a modern craft i might be convinced that it was a coincidence, but there are four on the same piece of stone. just because there is no direct proof that they had helicopters doesnt mean that they didnt have them. having aircraft would have made the pyramid biulding process a lot easier and explain what the so called experts still cant. how they managed to raise heavy stone to great heights.
Again I agree with you. I have read much about the ramp theory in the building process of the Pyramids. I can't remember exactly word for word, but many theories are that any ramp system used to raise the stones simply would not be able to support the weight especially the closer to the peak they got.
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if it was just one hieroglyph looking like a modern craft i might be convinced that it was a coincidence, but there are four on the same piece of stone. just because there is no direct proof that they had helicopters doesnt mean that they didnt have them. having aircraft would have made the pyramid biulding process a lot easier and explain what the so called experts still cant. how they managed to raise heavy stone to great heights.

You've already been told it's a palimpsest, which would apply to the entire stone.
Just because the Ancient Egyptians didn't have our technology, it doesn't mean they had NO technology. People who built cathedrals in the 12th century had different technology to us too but it doesn't mean they used helicopters to help them build!

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