John Brown

[spot]

Is John Brown seen today as a hero in America?

[oscar]

Originally Posted by spot

Is John Brown seen today as a hero in America?

Are you refering to the John Brown who was hanged in 1859?

[spot]

Originally Posted by oscar

Are you refering to the John Brown who was hanged in 1859?

Perhaps the thread will be more interesting if other possibly-heroic-American-John-Browns are included in whatever responses arrive. I don't know of any.

[chonsigirl]

No, he is not seen as a hero. He advocated violence for the movement against slavery, and was active in Bloody Kansas prior to the events at Harper's Ferry.

I think as history is revised numerous times, the more peaceful movements towards ending of atrocities is seen more favorably.

We debated him many times around the grad round tables-yet what he did was only a miniscule act of violence when compared to the Civil War itself.

[oscar]

Originally Posted by spot

Perhaps the thread will be more interesting if other possibly-heroic-American-John-Browns are included in whatever responses arrive. I don't know of any.

OK...What about 'Crispus Attucks' ?

[spot]

Originally Posted by chonsigirl

No, he is not seen as a hero. He advocated violence for the movement against slavery, and was active in Bloody Kansas prior to the events at Harper's Ferry.

I think as history is revised numerous times, the more peaceful movements towards ending of atrocities is seen more favorably.

We debated him many times around the grad round tables-yet what he did was only a miniscule act of violence when compared to the Civil War itself.

Your entire independence process involved civil insurrection and armed rebellion against the lawful government. In what way do the Founding Fathers differ from John Brown?

[Lon]

Originally Posted by spot

Is John Brown seen today as a hero in America?

Only students of, or those familiar with the American Civil War know who John Brown was. "John Brown's Body Lies a Moldering In the Grave" is a song that is not played, even during the American Civil Rights Movement. I have never heard him referred to as a hero by any group.

[spot]

Originally Posted by Lon

Only students of, or those familiar with the American Civil War know who John Brown was. "John Brown's Body Lies a Moldering In the Grave" is a song that is not played, even during the American Civil Rights Movement. I have never heard him referred to as a hero by any group.

That's an eye-opening post then. Thank you Lon, I had no idea.

[chonsigirl]

Originally Posted by spot

Your entire independence process involved civil insurrection and armed rebellion against the lawful government. In what way do the Founding Fathers differ from John Brown?

In the same manner as the European colonists took the land from the rightful owners......

Neither is correct procedure.

[spot]

Originally Posted by chonsigirl

In the same manner as the European colonists took the land from the rightful owners......

Neither is correct procedure.

And yet I presume your Founding Fathers are regarded as heroes? If that's so, perhaps you can draw out the difference somehow, illuminate the gap between them.