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    Re: World (Over)Population

    Quote Originally Posted by G#Gill View Post
    Perhaps it would be a help if The Vatican permitted artificial birth controls. Nature in any case, seems to have a way of 'trimming the tree', through awful natural calamities like volcanoes, tsunamis, and outbreaks of disease that develop into pandemics. Nature seems to have the ability to sort a problem e.g. if a tree looses a large branch on one side through damage, then after a while it drops a perfectly healthy branch from the opposite side in order to retain balance !

    If we don't introduce some sort of reduction in child birth, and soon, then nature will introduce something rather devastating to do the reduction for us !
    Which is why I don't think it's right for so much funding to be put into Fertility Treatments - especially on the NHS.

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    Re: World (Over)Population

    Just an observation, seems the birth rate of world population is not evenly spread out.

    Total world population is less a concern, so I would think.



    List of sovereign states and dependent territories by fertility rate
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    Re: World (Over)Population

    Quote Originally Posted by tude dog View Post
    Just an observation, seems the birth rate of world population is not evenly spread out.

    Total world population is less a concern, so I would think.



    List of sovereign states and dependent territories by fertility rate
    Unfortunately, that is not the whole story.
    Most of those high-rated countries also have the highest infant mortality rates, as well.



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    Re: World (Over)Population

    High birth rate, high infant mortality rate, it all correlates with..........standard of living ?
    So, we owe ourselves to raise the level of all our neighbours on the earth.................or they will only rock our boat wont they ?
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    Re: World (Over)Population

    Quote Originally Posted by tude dog View Post
    Just an observation, seems the birth rate of world population is not evenly spread out.

    Total world population is less a concern, so I would think.



    List of sovereign states and dependent territories by fertility rate
    Do you think third world nations arbitrarily have large families for the fun of it ? Just because they can ? If you live on a subsistence income with little or no future and the prospect of old age with no pension or income at all, especially if you're infirm, a large family to support you in your later years is the only way to survive.

    You need plenty of sons and daughters and grandkids to put the food on your plate if you are unable to do it yourself. No "meals on wheels" in Africa
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    Re: World (Over)Population

    In many cases the reason for having so many children is considered a manner of playing the numbers. The more children you have, the more chance there is of a couple of them surviving - as, for instance, was the case during the Victorian ere, when infant mortality was at an all time high.

    Plus, in many countries it has always been the culture that it should be the duty of the children to tend for their parents in their old age, so by increasing the numbers of children they are increasing their policy for a better return on their form of Life Insurance. The problem is that when they migrate to ealthier countries, where the Elderly Care is no longer an issue, the culture of large families, for many, remains.

    Furthermore, there is the case where, once again, Religion rears its ugly head & it is seen as being a duty to their God to fulfill whatever the version of "Go Forth & Be Fruitful" may be the best of their ability.

    So long as the average life expectancies & age of fertilities continue to rise, then it's a no brainer that the population is going to rise.

    In a natural system, over population would result in problems with food, drink & disposal of sewage / dead / waste etc., thus leading to epidemical level diseases, which keeps the population levels. It may sound harsh, but this is the way Nature works, and for Billions of years she's done a pretty good job of it. Now, as relative New Boys In Town, we have the arrogance to challenge her. Yeah, right.

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    Re: World (Over)Population

    Quote Originally Posted by FourPart View Post
    So long as the average life expectancies & age of fertilities continue to rise, then it's a no brainer that the population is going to rise.
    You need to look deeper.
    The fact is that wealthier more prosperous countries have a decline in population......I hate to bring them into it it, but the nationalist parties are afraid Europeans will die out because of that fact.
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    Re: World (Over)Population

    The population isn't declining - the rate of increase is declining.

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    Re: World (Over)Population

    Quote Originally Posted by FourPart View Post
    The population isn't declining - the rate of increase is declining.

    The EU's population now stands at 495 million and is projected to rise to more than 520 million by 2035, before falling to 505 million by 2060.


    I understand the birthrate is in decline, according to this report the actual European population will drop due to an aging population.
    The stark difference between affluent Europe and the third world is clear for all to see, much of the UK's increase is down to immigration and these young people being of child bearing age, so obscuring the trend.
    So sharing the wealth out is not only morally right, it could save the world.
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    Re: World (Over)Population

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    People who claim that the entire population of the world , if crowded together, would fit within Houston, Texas ignore one inconvenient fact . There is only a limited amount of inhabitable space on earth , and vast areas which are totally uninhabitable or could only support a very small population .
    There are vast swaths of scorching desert and northern, arctic regions which are simply uninhabitable . Populations are spreading into areas previously inhabited only by wild animals, and this is creating problems with cohabitation of human and non-human life forms .

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