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    Racist statues

    I was wondering what every ones opinion is on the BLM, ANTIFA etc etc. groups demanding the removal of all historic statues of the confederacy and of anyone in history that was a slave owner i.e. George Washington, Jefferson...

    Also, why did they suddenly become offensive, were they not offensive when Obama was President? It seems to me Obama being black would have been a better time to tear down any offending statues.

    I'm getting tired of everyone constantly finding new things to find offensive then protesting until they get their way, often times ending in violence.

    I could care less if there was or wasn't a statue of Robert E. Lee or most any other of the like.

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    Re: Racist statues

    I have no idea what an Antifa is. As for BLM, I don't recall them having much to say about statues.
    I am, like you, uncaring about statues, in general.
    If they are on public property, then I reckon city council or county gummint ought to have a say on what statues are part of the landscape.
    Seems though that statues honoring men who fought against our government seem a bit inappropriate to me.

    How would Kansans feel about having a statue of Bill Anderson in the capital grounds in Topeka?
    It may not be so much that I've conceded your point as that you just can't hear me rolling my eyes.

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    Re: Racist statues

    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post
    I have no idea what an Antifa is. As for BLM, I don't recall them having much to say about statues.
    I am, like you, uncaring about statues, in general.
    If they are on public property, then I reckon city council or county gummint ought to have a say on what statues are part of the landscape.
    Seems though that statues honoring men who fought against our government seem a bit inappropriate to me.

    How would Kansans feel about having a statue of Bill Anderson in the capital grounds in Topeka?
    Good point and I agree, I suppose to the south these figures represent ??? I guess I don't know what they represent. I mean weren't they actually traitors?

    I wonder when someone decides they want the pyramids torn down because slave labor was used or LGBT want Martin Luther King statues tore down because he was a christian and didn't believe in gay marriage..

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    Re: Racist statues

    Quote Originally Posted by YZGI View Post
    I was wondering what every ones opinion is on the BLM, ANTIFA etc etc.
    Week ago they were unknown.

    Quote Originally Posted by YZGI View Post
    groups demanding the removal of all historic statues of the confederacy and of anyone in history that was a slave owner i.e. George Washington, Jefferson...
    This is just so frustrating, It was a different world then. It is intellectual dishonesty to judge them by today's standards.

    Quote Originally Posted by YZGI View Post
    Also, why did they suddenly become offensive, were they not offensive when Obama was President? It seems to me Obama being black would have been a better time to tear down any offending statues.

    I'm getting tired of everyone constantly finding new things to find offensive then protesting until they get their way, often times ending in violence.
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    I could care less if there was or wasn't a statue of Robert E. Lee or most any other of the like.
    I can't say much about R.Lee, but he was loyal to his state/county and by all accounts an honorable man.
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    Re: Racist statues

    A friend of mine shared the speech that New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu gave about the City's removal of several Confederate statues that I think addresses the question very well.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/video...=.026486ed35e5
    It may not be so much that I've conceded your point as that you just can't hear me rolling my eyes.

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    Re: Racist statues

    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post
    A friend of mine shared the speech that New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu gave about the City's removal of several Confederate statues that I think addresses the question very well.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/video...=.026486ed35e5
    Hell I wish he would have run for President.

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    Re: Racist statues

    I find it to be very interesting that there was little interest in building the statues and monuments in the decades following the Civil War. The interest and activity suddenly sprung up in the 1950s and 60s, when the the federal government began to get serious about voting rights and other civil rights issues. That is also about the time that the Confederate battle flag began to be displayed.

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    Re: Racist statues

    When taking the statues down, why not erect them in museums with the relevant background and additional 'relics' of the time ?
    People could visit and get the full context, like Auschwitz and Birkenau.
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    Re: Racist statues

    Quote Originally Posted by Wandrin View Post
    I find it to be very interesting that there was little interest in building the statues and monuments in the decades following the Civil War. The interest and activity suddenly sprung up in the 1950s and 60s, when the the federal government began to get serious about voting rights and other civil rights issues. That is also about the time that the Confederate battle flag began to be displayed.
    That's quite correct Wandrin but a lot of the statues were erected around the 1920's 30's when lynching and the like were at full swing. They were erected in front of court houses as a statment ..... basically the "federal government can't help you here"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruv View Post
    When taking the statues down, why not erect them in museums with the relevant background and additional 'relics' of the time ?
    People could visit and get the full context, like Auschwitz and Birkenau.
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