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    Re: Christian and Muslim. Inequality OUT. World piece IN.

    Quote Originally Posted by FourPart View Post
    That St Thomas was such a Heathen Unbeliever.
    As compared to Christian idol worshipers, all that heathen un-believers are, are God seekers which is what Gnostic Christian Jesus said we should all perpetually be.

    God in this case defined as the best rules and laws to live life by.

    You will note that Christians stopped looking a long time ago and their books still hold all kinds of draconian laws that no civilized community would ever implement.

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    Re: Christian and Muslim. Inequality OUT. World piece IN.

    Quote Originally Posted by FourPart View Post
    Both Muslims & Christians will protest that they do not use idols, but I constest that claim. After all, what is the Crucifix - especially with the figure of Christ upon it, if not an idol? Then there is Islam. With Shia there is the Prayer Stone they use. Then there are the pillars in Mecca which Muslims ritualistically stone, as being icons of Satan. Even Judaism uses the Star of David - yet none of these are admitted as being idols.
    Jews Don't Pray to the Star of David! It's just a symbol of pride worn or displayed. Therefore, it is not an idol & you are Wrong!

    Not used as focus or focal point either. Geesh, talk about something you know!

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    I agree but what does rationality, intelligence, logic and reason as well as morals have to do with idol worshiping Christians and Muslims?
    You know a lot less about religion than you think you do don't you.

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    You know a lot less about religion than you think you do don't you.


    No argument. And you have refused to educate me by ignoring the question so perhaps you know even less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnneBoleyn View Post
    Jews Don't Pray to the Star of David! It's just a symbol of pride worn or displayed. Therefore, it is not an idol & you are Wrong!

    Not used as focus or focal point either. Geesh, talk about something you know!
    Rome made sure they transferred the main Jewish menorah to Rome after destroying the Jewish temple so I think that it was a focal point of worship. Almost as good as a golden calf. So from that POV, you might be wrong. But it is hard to separate custom and culture from a peoples religion. Hard to say where exactly religion fits into tradition and how important their menorah was to their religious system.

    Would you say that any who pray to a God are idol worshipers?

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    Re: Christian and Muslim. Inequality OUT. World piece IN.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    Rome made sure they transferred the main Jewish menorah to Rome after destroying the Jewish temple so I think that it was a focal point of worship. Almost as good as a golden calf. So from that POV, you might be wrong. But it is hard to separate custom and culture from a peoples religion. Hard to say where exactly religion fits into tradition and how important their menorah was to their religious system.

    Would you say that any who pray to a God are idol worshipers?

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    Depends if there's any images/symbols/effigies of "God", I would say.
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    Re: Christian and Muslim. Inequality OUT. World piece IN.

    Such as the big one in the Vatican.

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    Re: Christian and Muslim. Inequality OUT. World piece IN.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    Rome made sure they transferred the main Jewish menorah to Rome after destroying the Jewish temple so I think that it was a focal point of worship. Almost as good as a golden calf. So from that POV, you might be wrong. But it is hard to separate custom and culture from a peoples religion. Hard to say where exactly religion fits into tradition and how important their menorah was to their religious system.

    Would you say that any who pray to a God are idol worshipers?

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    You know nothing of Judaism DL, so don't waste your time thinking about it. Any more mistakes and I might think you're an Anti-Semite. Rome was punishing the Jews by that act, which does not prove your point. They were merely asserting their power, like seizing the other side's flags as a sign of victory over their enemy. Find a synagogue near you and politely ask a rabbi.

    No, I do not think those who pray to god are idol worshipers, unless you are re-writing the 10 Commandments. An idol is a physical thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smaug View Post
    Depends if there's any images/symbols/effigies of "God", I would say.
    If someone is praying, they must think an ear is out there listening.
    If not, they would be just talking or praying to nothing.
    I do not think most pray to nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourPart View Post
    Such as the big one in the Vatican.
    He is the same as his God.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30lGrarz3MQ

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