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    Re: Nixing international treaties

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    I'm left wondering where you think Airbus is located.
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    I'm entirely content for President Trump to penalize US companies if they break his sanctions law and trade with any embargoed country, but I'm damned if I'll see such policies applied to non-US companies too. An isolationist US is in keeping with President Trump's election commitments. An American Empire demanding financial penalties from elsewhere in the world is predictable but also illegal. Enough with the braggadocio.
    OK, be damned if you want.

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    It was not a bad deal. None of what the Fright-Wingers have constantly whined about regarding the deal is true.
    And Trump spends too much time listening to them.

    How we let this moron have the wheel, ...
    I am no fan of the Don, but then no secret I believe we have been ill-served for a long time.



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    Re: Nixing international treaties

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    I am no fan of the Don, but then no secret I believe we have been ill-served for a long time.



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    As I recall, that was estimated interest on the Iranian bank accounts and other assets in the US that we had frozen for x years. I could be wrong, of course.

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    Re: Nixing international treaties

    The Americans break their treaties with their own indiginous people, putting oil pipelines across their lands, supposedly protected by Treaty, and polluting their water supplies. If they can't honour the Treaties with its own people, why should anyone think they would honour them with other countries.

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    Re: Nixing international treaties

    Quote Originally Posted by Wandrin View Post
    As I recall, that was estimated interest on the Iranian bank accounts and other assets in the US that we had frozen for x years. I could be wrong, of course.
    That is true.

    Iranian frozen assets

    I remember when they were first frozen, never really kept up with it being so many years. Thing is, it was ours to hold and I see no benefit to us giving them the estimated accumulated interest.

    And why cash??

    How did we benefit?

    Oh, wait, ransom for a lousy nuke deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FourPart View Post
    The Americans break their treaties with their own indiginous people, putting oil pipelines across their lands, supposedly protected by Treaty, and polluting their water supplies. If they can't honour the Treaties with its own people, why should anyone think they would honour them with other countries.
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    Re: Nixing international treaties

    Quote Originally Posted by tude dog View Post
    Says you.
    Well, as of 1978, there was one Indigenous Tribe with territory or a reservation within the US borders who had never experienced a treaty being broken by the US government.
    That was the Seminole Tribe of South Florida.
    Reason: As of 1978 Th Seminoles were the only tribe who had never signed a treaty with the US Government.
    It may not be so much that I've conceded your point as that you just can't hear me rolling my eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post
    Well, as of 1978, there was one Indigenous Tribe with territory or a reservation within the US borders who had never experienced a treaty being broken by the US government.
    That was the Seminole Tribe of South Florida.
    Reason: As of 1978 Th Seminoles were the only tribe who had never signed a treaty with the US Government.
    Just doing a brief search apparently Seminoles have reached some accommodation as they have several reservations and gambling interests. Some Seminole live in Oklahoma, others live in Florida.

    To me that is interesting.
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    Re: Nixing international treaties

    Quote Originally Posted by tude dog View Post
    Just doing a brief search apparently Seminoles have reached some accommodation as they have several reservations and gambling interests. Some Seminole live in Oklahoma, others live in Florida.

    To me that is interesting.
    Yup, it is.
    The Seminoles that made their way to Oklahoma were some that surrendered after the second Seminole War. They were packed off to OK via train.
    A number of Seminoles retreated into the swamps and remained there long after the third war, and the Gummint agreed to leave them alone because nobody really wanted that swampland, anyway. The finally made a treaty in the mid 70s so they could take advantage of the Casino Craze.
    It may not be so much that I've conceded your point as that you just can't hear me rolling my eyes.

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    Re: Nixing international treaties

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    If only the US So far as I can make out the only reason republicans and trump don't like the iran deal us that it was made by a black man. He's (trump that is) not suggesting an alternative that gives any recourse except war and backing a nuclear armed israeli state to boot if you were iranian would you not be thinking the only way to be safe from attack is to have nuclear weapons? If the iranians call the US bluff are you really going to invade iran? Which if it is not a bluff is what will need to happen what do you think russia and china will do if you go to war in iran?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...l-donald-trump

    I think we should retaliate in kind and stop selling them the cars european manufacturers make in the states and stop buying boeing aeroplanes.

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