The 11th hour

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Originally Posted by scholle-kid

the Irish, The Scottish, Africa's natural resources (daimond mines) , the Aussie's, there are so many countries that have felt the 'benefits of Great Britain services.

The Scots are an integral part of Great Britain. To describe the Irish as "Europe" is a wild stretch, don't you think?

[scholle-kid]

Originally Posted by LilacDragon

As I sit here and listen to the news reports, I just want to cry. As a white American, if I said that I voted for a candidate because of the color of their skin, I would be vilified and cursed as a racist. Yet I listen to person after person go on about what a great day it is for African Americans, how "we" are living Martin Luther King, Jr's dream, and how when the numbers from the districts in the different states come in with a majority of African American voters Obama's numbers will skyrocket.

I listen to the political pundents talk about how, in cities and counties that are a majority African American and have long histories of low voter turn-outs, the voter registrations are through the roof and attendence is higher then it has ever been.
One really must wonder if it is about the economy and the issues or that there is an African American candidate?

It isn't supposed to be about skin color. It is supposed to be about the issues. I pray that all these people who are voting because of skin color instead of issues are right.

This is what I am worried about and why I started this thread .

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Originally Posted by LilacDragon

It isn't supposed to be about skin color. It is supposed to be about the issues. I pray that all these people who are voting because of skin color instead of issues are right.

Call it payback. There's a lot of that hitting the USA from outside its borders as well. Putting up with a bit of internal prejudice is far less worrying for you than international opinion, I'd have thought.

[LilacDragon]

There is no country on the planet that has not treated some of it's citizens poorly at one time or another.

At what point does the current generation get off the hook? My family never owned a slave and yet because I am white I am supposed to owe something to those who are descendants of slaves?

If this is the case, please let me know. I believe Sweden might owe me something because my Great Grandfather was a "slave" a century ago.

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Originally Posted by scholle-kid

I figure we will never know just how many people voted for color of skin without a thought to abilities or policies. In another forum a poster said 'Just think if all goes the way it should black kids will for the first time in history see a black presidents picture on the wall in their classrooms.
I ask her if she had voted for color of skin or because she felt he was the better of the 2 choices to lead our nation and make right and just desisions for our citizens and the nation ? she said ' "I voted for the color of his skin"
The ramifications of this is just to sad . All the years and tears and pain of racism that this nation has been through is all meaningless and for nothing .

I know what you mean. If he wins and blows it, there will be those who will say "I told you so." I take heart in the fact that Obama isn't the first to go for the nomination. Americans has enough sense not to vote color when Jesse Jackson ran. Same with Alan Keyes. Despite how Spot and his ilk try to paint us, we are leaving our past in the past.

[scholle-kid]

Originally Posted by spot

The Scots are an integral part of Great Britain. To describe the Irish as "Europe" is a wild stretch, don't you think?

just about every country that is in Europe and the surrounding areas

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Originally Posted by LilacDragon

There is no country on the planet that has not treated some of it's citizens poorly at one time or another.

The words you're missing are "so much" and "so recently".

[LilacDragon]

Originally Posted by spot

Call it payback. There's a lot of that hitting the USA from outside its borders as well. Putting up with a bit of internal prejudice is far less worrying for you than international opinion, I'd have thought.

Honestly, I could give a rat's hiney about international opinion! I have to LIVE here and I don't want the leader of my country elected because of his skin color instead of his stand on the issues and what THAT is going to do to how I live my life.

[scholle-kid]

Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong .
But guess what,, the USA DID NOT invent slavery or persecution for beliefs or being prejudice against a people for whatever reason .

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Originally Posted by scholle-kid

Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong .
But guess what,, the USA DID NOT invent slavery or persecution for beliefs or being prejudice against a people for whatever reason .

You're quite right. It invented apartheid instead, and the South Africans copied it.