The 11th hour

[scholle-kid]

Originally Posted by spot

The words you're missing are "so much" and "so recently".

Wow are you ever grasping at straws.
there is not one slave or one slave owner any where in the 50 sates today . They have all been dead for close to or more than a century.

[spot]

Originally Posted by scholle-kid

Wow are you ever grasping at straws.
there is not one slave or one slave owner any where in the 50 sates today . They have all been dead for close to or more than a century.

You know what? Black-majority public schools in the US are still worse than white-majority public schools. Even on that fundamental a measure there's still no level playing field.

[scholle-kid]

Originally Posted by scholle-kid

I figure we will never know just how many people voted for color of skin without a thought to abilities or policies. In another forum a poster said 'Just think if all goes the way it should black kids will for the first time in history see a black presidents picture on the wall in their classrooms.
I ask her if she had voted for color of skin or because she felt he was the better of the 2 choices to lead our nation and make right and just desisions for our citizens and the nation ? she said ' "I voted for the color of his skin"
The ramifications of this is just to sad . All the years and tears and pain of racism that this nation has been through is all meaningless and for nothing . I don't mean to sound like I believe Mc caain is a better choice.
because this post is not about the voters voting for the best choice ,this post is about voters that voted the way they did for the wrong reasons. If people were angry and concerned 50 years ago about what affect social conditions of that time had on the children both white and black. Just what affect will this have on the children of today? I don't know any more than the next American does who will be in the white for the next 4 to 8 years at this moment, and like all Americans hope with all I have that who ever it is will do his best for our nation and our citizens.

a request please,
if a poster can not stay on topic of OP please open your own thread.

[scholle-kid]

Originally Posted by spot

You're quite right. It invented apartheid instead, and the South Africans copied it.

Dude got to google .com and find your self a dictionary with the meaning of worsd like

correct

or

continuring

or leave off already,,,

[LilacDragon]

Originally Posted by spot

You know what? Black-majority public schools in the US are still worse than white-majority public schools. Even on that fundamental a measure there's still no level playing field.

I wonder why that is?

Look at the problems in those schools and the surrounding neighborhoods. How about putting the blame where it belongs instead of trying to blame it on "white America".

[Kindle]

Originally Posted by LilacDragon

,,,,,,and I don't want the leader of my country elected because of his skin color instead of his stand on the issues and what THAT is going to do to how I live my life.

As each person can choose as they see fit, we will get what we get. The news media will create their stories as to how and why it all came about, just as they have during the almost 2 years of the campaigning, but nobody knows for sure what and why choices are finally made. They only know what they are told and then they might slant it to their own ends.

No matter who is elected, we still have a Congress which wields a good bit of strength in the governing process.

AND, the beauty of America is that once the election is final, we as Americans should, as we used to do in the past, support our President. I, for one, would not want to live anywhere else.

[scholle-kid]

Originally Posted by Kindle

As each person can choose as they see fit, we will get what we get. The news media will create their stories as to how and why it all came about, just as they have during the almost 2 years of the campaigning, but nobody knows for sure what and why choices are finally made. They only know what they are told and then they might slant it to their own ends.

No matter who is elected, we still have a Congress which wields a good bit of strength in the governing process.

AND, the beauty of America is that once the election is final, we as Americans should, as we used to do in the past, support our President. I, for one, would not want to live anywhere else.

The very first sentence of my OP said
"I figure we will never know just how many people voted for color of skin without a thought to abilities or policies.?
I did not put it off on any certain thing like media or any one group .

And you are right on the money about not wanting to be anywhere but here in America .

[spot]

Originally Posted by scholle-kid

The very first sentence of my OP said
"I figure we will never know just how many people voted for color of skin without a thought to abilities or policies.?

Okay, here's a list of the only states in which Senator Obama's been unable to make inroads into the 2004 proportions. I'm not being selective, these are straight from the current figures of votes counted.

Missouri
Arkansas
West Virginia
Tennessee
Louisiana
Georgia
South Carolina
Mississippi
Kentucky

Do they look Confederate or don't they?

Every other state where counting's in progress, he's made advances. Not in those.

What do they have in common?

I suggest they're places where significant numbers of people are voting on the basis of skin color, and they're white.

[scholle-kid]

What do they have in common?


1. They are all states inthe USA

2.They are the states that any bookie would have bet would vote for Mccain

3. They are X Confederate states that now are part of the USA

[QUINNSCOMMENTARY]

Originally Posted by scholle-kid

I figure we will never know just how many people voted for color of skin without a thought to abilities or policies. In another forum a poster said 'Just think if all goes the way it should black kids will for the first time in history see a black presidents picture on the wall in their classrooms.
I ask her if she had voted for color of skin or because she felt he was the better of the 2 choices to lead our nation and make right and just desisions for our citizens and the nation ? she said ' "I voted for the color of his skin"
The ramifications of this is just to sad . All the years and tears and pain of racism that this nation has been through is all meaningless and for nothing . I don't mean to sound like I believe Mc caain is a better choice.
because this post is not about the voters voting for the best choice ,this post is about voters that voted the way they did for the wrong reasons. If people were angry and concerned 50 years ago about what affect social conditions of that time had on the children both white and black. Just what affect will this have on the children of today? I don't know any more than the next American does who will be in the white for the next 4 to 8 years at this moment, and like all Americans hope with all I have that who ever it is will do his best for our nation and our citizens.

I just heard a white women on TV say she voted for Obama "because he was a community organizer and he cares about housing."

But more to the point, yes black Americans voted for him because he is black, period, but that is OK. In fact, the fact that black young people now have a black person to look up to as a role model is likely to be the only truly positive thing to come from his election or lets hope it is. Colin Powell was vilified in segments of the black community because he acted too white, go figure.

But remember, it was white America that elected Obama.

It was not too long ago that a person 50% white and 50% black was shunned by both communities and today a person of such a background is an African American, go figure.