What's wrong with Polygamy?

[Accountable]

Originally Posted by chonsigirl

My personal view is that marriage is composed of a male and female. One of each only.

I think that homosexual or polygamous couples would probably have to gain custody of their SO to have similar legal rights to what I have, but they would not be equal since they are not a legal, recognized marriage.

The question of guardianship in a case like this varies immensely from state to state. For example, in Maryland, it is a difficult thing to do-I have power of attorney and the rights as the legal wife. I do not have guardianship, but would only seek that if the situation deterioarated or someone else contested my role in my husband's care. I was warned it was difficult to win, and the chances were the state would take over his care. I opted for what I have, I know my husband would die in a state institution-that would also have left us homeless, because the state would take my home here and my home in California also where my adult children live. My children and me would have to fend or ourselves, with probably 50% of more of my salary taken by the state to begin with.

And you're okay that others are forced to go through what you've avoided by being married? I know this is a tender subject, given the circumstances.

[Accountable]

Originally Posted by Lil~Basco

Acc...you are married, right? Do you have a marraige license? Why did you choose license and not common law?

I like the rights instilled with a marraige license. Expand it to include the other groups...if the law said it would be so, I would have no problem with that. Live and let live.....life is choices. Laws are laws.

I was in the military at the time, stationed in Japan. I didn't have much choice in the matter. I likely wouldn't have gone through a licensing thing otherwise. Not from any conviction, just from laziness.

I can certainly see the usefulness of legal marriage such as that Chonsi is experiencing, but other things like tax breaks for kids are actuall harmful, if those who cry about overpopulation are to be believed, because they were originated to encourage large families. We're not farmers anymore.

[Lil~Basco]

Originally Posted by Accountable

I was in the military at the time, stationed in Japan. I didn't have much choice in the matter. I likely wouldn't have gone through a licensing thing otherwise. Not from any conviction, just from laziness.

I can certainly see the usefulness of legal marriage such as that Chonsi is experiencing, but other things like tax breaks for kids are actuall harmful, if those who cry about overpopulation are to be believed, because they were originated to encourage large families. We're not farmers anymore.

One subject leads to another, doesn't it. Overpopulation...tax breaks....how about the number of people enrolled on welfare too and yet still add to the population at taxpayers expense. Welfare even buys vehicles for these people as long as they make an effort to look for employment. Heck they even pay for servicing and repairing said vehicle and these people still don't land a job. So, what do you think the cure is?

[Accountable]

Originally Posted by Lil~Basco

One subject leads to another, doesn't it. Overpopulation...tax breaks....how about the number of people enrolled on welfare too and yet still add to the population at taxpayers expense. Welfare even buys vehicles for these people as long as they make an effort to look for employment. Heck they even pay for servicing and repairing said vehicle and these people still don't land a job. So, what do you think the cure is?

Self-accountability.

Celebrating people's every accomplishment and not destroying hope by telling them they can't succeed, so they may as well take the check.

[chonsigirl]

Originally Posted by Accountable

And you're okay that others are forced to go through what you've avoided by being married? I know this is a tender subject, given the circumstances.

Well, I do not believe in homosexual or polygamous marriages.

I think something must be done to change some state laws, but I do not approve of homosexual or polygamous marriages. If we are talking about guardianship issues, then that is another matter. Consideration should be given to them. If they love them and want to take care of them, they shold have access to what is needed.

*said in love*

AC, what would your wife say about common-law vs official marriage? Is it an important point to her, or-I would guess-you are such a dependable man, she would never doubt for a minute you would take care of her either way?

For me, it was an important point to be married, and we waited several years for that lucky day. I still consider it one of the best days of my life, and do not regret it.

I look forward to reading your reply in the morning.

[Accountable]

Originally Posted by chonsigirl

Well, I do not believe in homosexual or polygamous marriages.

I think something must be done to change some state laws, but I do not approve of homosexual or polygamous marriages. If we are talking about guardianship issues, then that is another matter. Consideration should be given to them. If they love them and want to take care of them, they shold have access to what is needed.

*said in love*

AC, what would your wife say about common-law vs official marriage? Is it an important point to her, or-I would guess-you are such a dependable man, she would never doubt for a minute you would take care of her either way?

For me, it was an important point to be married, and we waited several years for that lucky day. I still consider it one of the best days of my life, and do not regret it.

I look forward to reading your reply in the morning.

My beloved is from a different culture, one in which the government keeps close tabs on every aspect of its citizens lives, and everyone conforms. Even the rebels rebel in lockstep with their fellow rebels.

My view on marriage is that it is a holy union. Governments hold no authority in holy matters. Having a blessed ceremony with a clergy officiating is no less special than a licensed civil ceremony with a disinterested judge or a quickie at a Las Vegas drive-thru with a rubber-stamped document.

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I would think it a simple thing to establish or alter the rules of claiming one's on next-of-kin, .

[koan]

Originally Posted by Saffron

Polygamy is for animals. If men need more than one woman, they should hire a housekeeper, a maid or an all around babysitter instead of marrying several women. Polygamy is an archaic practice that was created thousands of years ago in order to "spread Islam". And it is being practiced to this day in the Middle East. There is a reason that is is against the law, it's immoral.

ya see...there is something about hate that makes me cringe. What is the purpose of this false statement? If it wasn't hate motivated then it must be ignorance. Here are some facts.

First of all, we are all animals not just Muslim people. Yes, you. You are an animal, like it or not. Second...


Polygamy was an accepted practice among early Hebrews, including several revered biblical figures such as Abraham, David and Solomon (who was the most married, with 700 wives and 300 concubines).

Finally, in the 10th century, a rabbi named Gershom outlawed polygamy for 1,000 years

Gershom was speaking only to Eastern European Jews (Ashkanazi). The Meditteranean (Sephardic) Jews continued to practice polygamy.

A maximum of four wives is allowed by the Koran, the sacred writing of Islam's prophet Mohammed, under strict conditions.

Mohammed had 10 wives and two concubines, according to Cyril Glasse in the Encyclopedia of Islam. He was married monogamously to his first wife, Khadijah, for 20 years, and she was the only one to bear him children. But after her death, he wed several widows and other women for the purpose of creating
political alliances.

The Catholic Church frowned on the practice, but occasionally sanctioned second marriages of political leaders

In the 1500s, Martin Luther tolerated polygamy in certain instances as a political necessity to ``ensure the success of the Reformation,''

it goes on. source

We shouldn't assume it would be only men running out for more wives, last I heard they were awfully expensive. I've known a few women who married for money a number of times and might not have bothered getting divorced if they hadn't had to.

[chonsigirl]

Originally Posted by Accountable

My beloved is from a different culture, one in which the government keeps close tabs on every aspect of its citizens lives, and everyone conforms. Even the rebels rebel in lockstep with their fellow rebels.

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My view on marriage is that it is a holy union. Governments hold no authority in holy matters. Having a blessed ceremony with a clergy officiating is no less special than a licensed civil ceremony with a disinterested judge or a quickie at a Las Vegas drive-thru with a rubber-stamped document.

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I would think it a simple thing to establish or alter the rules of claiming one's on next-of-kin, .

I agree it doesn't matter if marriage is a civil ceremony or in a church. My husband and I were married at the State Chapel by the official State Clerk or whatever the position is, it was a civil ceremony. But you always see the state clerks name on all kinds of papers that show up, driver license applications, mortgages, etc. and we always laughed and smiled, because he married us.

[buttercup]

its sexist, men get lots of wives, why can women have lots of husbands
make it fair at least

[chonsigirl]

Oh, they are cases were polygamy worked the other way, like among Hawaiin royalty. Sounds more fair to me too!