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Old 04-11-2009, 12:29 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: EU Rules Seek to Force Britain to Give Criminals a Vote the AA grumpy column

Just tried phoning S.Yorks police, but of course with the Easter weekend "this office is closed...." Will try again Monday.

I wasn't really talking about individual cases but policies - I presume you are not suggesting that other political parties approve of the grooming of underage girls for sex, or that it only happens in the Muslim community, or that the police in general turn a blind eye to this?

I assume your point is that only the BNP made anything happen on the issue?

Can you tell me if the grandfather went to anyone other than the BNP when (allegedly) the police said they could do nothing when he complained? The article doesn't say.

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Old 04-11-2009, 12:54 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Oscar: Oh yes, I take it from your silence on the issue that you accept that the BNP is not correct about the significance of the consultation paper, in that consultation papers are, "...papers containing proposals for change and new policies, which invite the public to comment within a given time period." and NOT Law or about to be Law, as suggested by BNP member Mr Barnbrook in the article quoted by pantoandy?

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Old 04-11-2009, 02:03 PM   #13 (permalink)
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A South Yorkshire Police spokesman confirmed to BNP News that “Officers from South Yorkshire Police have arrested seven men in relation to an ongoing investigation into alleged serious sexual offences in the Rotherham area.
(taken from the BNP article on the Live Leak website {BNP publicity}. My bold)

A bit of close textual analysis suggests that the police were aware of the situation and investigating anyway, regardless of the BNP. It is entirely possible that, based on that, that the BNP forced the police to close their investigation sooner than they wanted to, for the sake of a bit of publicity, and that therefore other paedophiles were helped to escape the police net by the BNP. I will try to remember to ask S.Yorks police about it when I succeed in getting in touch...

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Old 04-11-2009, 02:30 PM   #14 (permalink)
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slightly more balanced reporting.

BBC NEWS | Politics | Some inmates to get voting rights

I think anyone who has been found guilty of a crime even if subsequently they have the conviction squashed should be barred from standing as an MP. Clearly they are criminals or they wouldn't have been arrested in the first place.

Course if wrongly convicted and all else fails there is always the european court of human rights to appeal to isn't there?

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Without turning this thread into a BNP patry debate, there was one issue that i learnt about very recently.

LiveLeak.com - Only the BNP Made Something Happen, Says Grandfather of Latest Muslim Sex Grooming Scandal Victim

I checked this out..... this is not propoganda and really happened. The police knew about about these gangs grooming young girls but turned a blind eye (allegedly) for fear of sparking trouble where in theat area there is a large muslim community. There were many many victems and the BNP were keeping their eye on it although other local councillors tried to play it down. Eventually, the BNP threatened to go public to the press with it that the police were doing nothing. Soon after, arrests were made.
I suppose the irony that your link also has further link in to "Meet sexy girls in your area" doesn't need to be pointed out.

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Oscar: Oh yes, I take it from your silence on the issue that you accept that the BNP is not correct about the significance of the consultation paper, in that consultation papers are, "...papers containing proposals for change and new policies, which invite the public to comment within a given time period." and NOT Law or about to be Law, as suggested by BNP member Mr Barnbrook in the article quoted by pantoandy?

the consultation paper i can believe the invitation for the public to comment is hollyhocks.
if the public are consulted it will only be the beard and sandals do gooders who will say yes to this outrage .
labour will do what it specialises in it will sneak it in through the back door as it did with the open door immigration policy to please the eu and the bleating human rights do gooders.
the fact that criminals get a vote its nothing major but wrong in principle.
the bnp report facts not fabricate fictionional spin like labour who have lied cheated and turned this country back to the time when we had the depression and recession which the iron maiden maggie thatcher pulled us out of and 11 years of labour rule has dragged us back in to

COME IN GORDON YOUR TIMES UP AND IF LABOUR DID WIN ANOTHER TERM I,D SHOW MY BARE ARSE IN NETTO,S SHOP WINDOW THATS HOW CONFIDENT I AM THAT WE WILL SOON BE RID OF THIS USELESS GOVERNMENT !!!

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the consultation paper i can believe the invitation for the public to comment is hollyhocks.
Go and try. My apologies for the disparagement of your views - I have been thinking about this and realise it was a mistake. I am a Liberal Democrat and you succeeded in getting my goat with your comments

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the fact that criminals get a vote its nothing major but wrong in principle.
Agreed. They are excluded from Society. That is part of their punishment.

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Disagree.

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COME IN GORDON YOUR TIMES UP AND IF LABOUR DID WIN ANOTHER TERM I,D SHOW MY BARE ARSE IN NETTO,S SHOP WINDOW THATS HOW CONFIDENT I AM THAT WE WILL SOON BE RID OF THIS USELESS GOVERNMENT !!!
Agree that labour are dead ducks. Think that Maggie started the rot with her "no such thing as Society" hollyhocks which meant that the greedy and amoral have had a charter to rip off Society (ie US) ever since, because how can you harmsomething that doesn't exist. Not that it didn't happen before, but this gave them public Prime Ministerial approval for that sort of behaviour. And look where we are with with Fred the Shred and his ilk.

Completely agree that we are deep in the nasty stuff and need radical action to sort it out. Just think that the BNP is exactly 180 degrees the wrong way to go.

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Oscar: Oh yes, I take it from your silence on the issue that you accept that the BNP is not correct about the significance of the consultation paper, ?
Please do not take anything from my silence Sir. If i can't answer because i know not of the answer then i sall google. If i still do not know the answer, i will write a post and say so. What i do not do, is hide behind my silence. If your saw my iother thread 'I'm going back to bed', you will see that i have bee hurling at the porcelain all evening and have only just got up from bed.
Please try to refrain from fitting we in with lilly-livered back benchers that you usually come across.
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Sorry - posted before I noticed the "I am ill" stuff.

See my smoking posts on another thread. Hope you are feeling better. (I missed off the inverted commas on "smoking" deliberately)

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Sorry - posted before I noticed the "I am ill" stuff.

See my smoking posts on another thread. Hope you are feeling better. (I missed off the inverted commas on "smoking" deliberately)
Your forgiven and once i stop feeling like emptyimg my stomach lining every five minutes and got rid of the feeling that i'm on the big dipper in Blackpool, I shall come back to set about you
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Your forgiven and once i stop feeling like emptyimg my stomach lining every five minutes and got rid of the feeling that i'm on the big dipper in Blackpool, I shall come back to set about you
It's your body rejecting the BNP. The vomit is a metaphor for their policies

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