EU Rules Seek to Force Britain to Give Criminals a Vote the AA grumpy column

[oscar]

Originally Posted by Clodhopper

Oscar: Oh yes, I take it from your silence on the issue that you accept that the BNP is not correct about the significance of the consultation paper, in that consultation papers are, "...papers containing proposals for change and new policies, which invite the public to comment within a given time period." and NOT Law or about to be Law, as suggested by BNP member Mr Barnbrook in the article quoted by pantoandy?

EU Rules Seek to Force Britain to Give Criminals the Vote : The British National Party

It is only a consultation so far.

[gmc]

So do you think the government should also ignore a previous ruling that it should destroy the DNA samples taken by police from those those have been arrested but who were subsequently not charged or convicted with an offence? Or do you think it OK to let the government build up a dna database on everybody.

As an aside, it’s a little known aspect of the 2000 US election that Florida had a law barring felons from ever voting again-we let ours vote once they are released

And that wide trawling through voter lists for supposed released convicted out-of-state felons had wrongly barred from voting more than enough entirely blameless (mainly black) voters as to deny Al Gore Florida and the Presidency. Course no British politician would do such a thing would they?

While we're at at it let's stop british expats from being able to vote in our elections-if they don't like the UK they can **** off permanently. Why on earth should someone living in spain receive the winter fuel allowance also the state pension should not be paid to someone living abroad. If they can afford to live abroad and don't want to pay our taxes why the hell should we help them do it. Then they come crawling back and expect the state to support them when they need long term care or they can't afford to pay the medical bills in the country they choose to live in. Let's keep state benefits for those that want to live in Britain and stop supporting well off scroungers who choose to live abroad. Think how much money we would save.

[oscar]

Originally Posted by gmc

So do you think the government should also ignore a previous ruling that it should destroy the DNA samples taken by police from those those have been arrested but who were subsequently not charged or convicted with an offence? Or do you think it OK to let the government build up a dna database on everybody.

As an aside, it’s a little known aspect of the 2000 US election that Florida had a law barring felons from ever voting again-we let ours vote once they are released

And that wide trawling through voter lists for supposed released convicted out-of-state felons had wrongly barred from voting more than enough entirely blameless (mainly black) voters as to deny Al Gore Florida and the Presidency. Course no British politician would do such a thing would they?

While we're at at it let's stop british expats from being able to vote in our elections-if they don't like the UK they can **** off permanently. Why on earth should someone living in spain receive the winter fuel allowance also the state pension should not be paid to someone living abroad. If they can afford to live abroad and don't want to pay our taxes why the hell should we help them do it. Then they come crawling back and expect the state to support them when they need long term care or they can't afford to pay the medical bills in the country they choose to live in. Let's keep state benefits for those that want to live in Britain and stop supporting well off scroungers who choose to live abroad. Think how much money we would save.

No i don't think it's right for DNA to be stored any more than i agree with our e amils etc being monitered.

As for the ex pats....... couldn't agree more. They left this country willingly so they should get nothing.

[gmc]

Originally Posted by oscar

No i don't think it's right for DNA to be stored any more than i agree with our e amils etc being monitered.

As for the ex pats....... couldn't agree more. They left this country willingly so they should get nothing.

How about we don;t let daily mail readers vote. They've demonstrated that they ae mentally incompetent by believing all the drivel it contains

[oscar]

Originally Posted by gmc

How about we don;t let daily mail readers vote. They've demonstrated that they ae mentally incompetent by believing all the drivel it contains

If we did that the only voters left would be the beardy, cordroy wearing tree-huggers and the criminally insane who all own a staff bull terrier called Dave.

[Clodhopper]

It is only a consultation so far.

EXACTLY. So would you agree that the BNP, by suggesting that this is Law when it isn't, are misleading the public?

I still need an answer on whether the grandfather had tried to get help from any one other than the BNP when the police, according to the BNP, refused to act. If he did not, don't you agree that to claim only the BNP bothered to help him is, well, misleading?

South Yorkshire police have told me that the word "ongoing" is usually used to describe an investigation that had been running for some time and would continue to run. The policeman who answered me commented that, "We don't just run out and arrest people, y'know." (I resisted the typical treehugging sandalwearing beardie liberal response...)

There are limits on what they are prepared to tell me about an individual case, but they have promised me a call tomorrow.

[pantoandy]

Originally Posted by oscar

Your forgiven and once i stop feeling like emptyimg my stomach lining every five minutes and got rid of the feeling that i'm on the big dipper in Blackpool, I shall come back to set about you

GET WELL SOON OSCAR


the grumps

[oscar]

Originally Posted by pantoandy

GET WELL SOON OSCAR


the grumps

Thanks Panto..... I had to stop taking the Champix. Now I'm on anti-sickness pills as they made me so ill. Never again.

[oscar]

Originally Posted by Clodhopper

EXACTLY. So would you agree that the BNP, by suggesting that this is Law when it isn't, are misleading the public?

I still need an answer on whether the grandfather had tried to get help from any one other than the BNP when the police, according to the BNP, refused to act. If he did not, don't you agree that to claim only the BNP bothered to help him is, well, misleading?

South Yorkshire police have told me that the word "ongoing" is usually used to describe an investigation that had been running for some time and would continue to run. The policeman who answered me commented that, "We don't just run out and arrest people, y'know." (I resisted the typical treehugging sandalwearing beardie liberal response...)

There are limits on what they are prepared to tell me about an individual case, but they have promised me a call tomorrow.

I will be very interested in the answer you get from the police. Frankly, i think they will play it down as they don't want a scandal which is what they did when it came to light.
I have nothing to show as evidence other than the story on the BNP site i posted and what i was told on the phone. As i understood it, the grandfather who won't be named for fear of reprisals, tried to get something done with the police and they showed very little interest.

[Clodhopper]

It's one of the troubles with individual cases. Hard to get detailed info, especially if the case is up for trial. Individual cases don't prove much about anything, anyway - I'm sure there are cases where the BNP has done something useful for the community: it's hard to imagine they bog absolutely everything up all the time.

But neither the case you gave me or pantoandy's convince me that the BNP is a party fit to run this country. It is a Fascist organisation.

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