EU Rules Seek to Force Britain to Give Criminals a Vote the AA grumpy column

[pantoandy]

hello and welcome to another AA grumpy column as unmissable as cat **** on the carpet.
the unelected eu eurocrats are at it again this time they want to pass a law which gives jailed convicts a vote.

A European Union ruling on the right to vote will soon overturn traditional British law which denies killers, rapists, thieves and paedophiles the right to vote.

The European Court of Human Rights is forcing the UK to change its 140-year-old law which bans inmates from voting. Under the new law, which is currently “under consultation,” prisoners could be able to have postal votes from their prison cells.

In 2007, prisoners sentenced to less than four years included 154 convicted of manslaughter, 10,060 convicted of wounding, 78 rapists and 1,425 other sex offenders.

The Ministry of Justice has written a consultation paper which covers the options. The proposal is “open-ended”, which means no type of prisoner has yet been ruled out.

The British National Party’s spokesman on policing matters, former Metropolitan police inspector Mr Michael Barnbrook, has expressed his outrage at the move.

“How many more sensible laws and traditions does the EU want to destroy?” Mr Barnbrook said.

“There is a very good reason why people who have been convicted of those horrendous crimes are not allowed to vote - through their deeds they have abrogated their rights in society.

“The thought of a paedophile being able to vote for the public representatives of a family whose life they have destroyed, is too horrendous to even contemplate,” he said.

“The time has come to get rid of the EU monstrosity before it destroys everything that is British and undermines all our moral codes and norms.
http://bnp.org.uk/2009/04/eu-rules-s...nals-the-vote/
AAG

is this a case of the lunatics taking over the asylum?
to my mind if you transgress society and put in jail you are excluded from society for the term of your prison sentence.
so why should we give in the the eu or the mamby pamby beard and sandals
lib dem voting handwringing do gooders ? i thought prisons were there to punish you
now they have tv,s sinks and toilets in their cells a far cry from ronnie barkers slop out bucket and jug and bowl
whatever next weekend leave nights out or daytrips to the seaside GRRRRRRR
AAG

[Clodhopper]

Under the new law, which is currently “under consultation,” prisoners could be able to have postal votes from their prison cells.

In other words it isn't Law, this is BNP scaremongering. You are writing as if it is law, when it isn't. This is called telling lies and absolutely typical of the sort of thing I expect from the BNP: lies and half truths. Going to tell us all the country's problems are the fault of a despised minority, next?

[oscar]

Originally Posted by Clodhopper

In other words it isn't Law, this is BNP scaremongering. You are writing as if it is law, when it isn't. This is called telling lies and absolutely typical of the sort of thing I expect from the BNP: lies and half truths. Going to tell us all the country's problems are the fault of a despised minority, next?

It's not lie's, This debate has been going on for years......... Have you researched the BNP??

[Clodhopper]

Oscar: I'm afraid that pantoandy has either been misled or is being "economical with the actualite". A consultation paper is NOT law: it is exactly what it says it is:

http://http://www.justice.gov.uk/consultations/consultations.htm

The above is a link to current consultation papers. The one pantoandy refers to is there.

For those who don't want to get involved in web research, consultation papers are, "...papers containing proposals for change and new policies, which invite the public to comment within a given time period." (the first line on the page of the website referred to.)

I think "research" would be too strong a word to describe what I've being doing with the BNP, "keeping a vague eye on" would probably be more accurate. However, they have correctly identified the fears of many people in Britain, and if you tell me some of the issues and solutions they have that you agree with I will look at them seriously and come back to you in a day or so. I'm not sleeping well at the moment, so I'm not at my best - give me some time.

Anyone who decides to stand for Parliament, with the enormous workload an MP has, deserves a considered response.

[oscar]

Originally Posted by Clodhopper

Oscar: I'm afraid that pantoandy has either been misled or is being "economical with the actualite". A consultation paper is NOT law: it is exactly what it says it is:

http://http://www.justice.gov.uk/consultations/consultations.htm

The above is a link to current consultation papers. The one pantoandy refers to is there.

For those who don't want to get involved in web research, consultation papers are, "...papers containing proposals for change and new policies, which invite the public to comment within a given time period." (the first line on the page of the website referred to.)

I think "research" would be too strong a word to describe what I've being doing with the BNP, "keeping a vague eye on" would probably be more accurate. However, they have correctly identified the fears of many people in Britain, and if you tell me some of the issues and solutions they have that you agree with I will look at them seriously and come back to you in a day or so. I'm not sleeping well at the moment, so I'm not at my best - give me some time.

Anyone who decides to stand for Parliament, with the enormous workload an MP has, deserves a considered response.

Sorry to hear your not sleeping well.... I have some pills for that!. I've been down with something horrible all week also. I got all ready to leave at 5 to go to work and started being sick again. It could be the 'Champix' i started to stop me smoking.
Without turning this thread into a BNP patry debate, there was one issue that i learnt about very recently.

LiveLeak.com - Only the BNP Made Something Happen, Says Grandfather of Latest Muslim Sex Grooming Scandal Victim

I checked this out..... this is not propoganda and really happened. The police knew about about these gangs grooming young girls but turned a blind eye (allegedly) for fear of sparking trouble where in theat area there is a large muslim community. There were many many victems and the BNP were keeping their eye on it although other local councillors tried to play it down. Eventually, the BNP threatened to go public to the press with it that the police were doing nothing. Soon after, arrests were made.

[kazalala]

Originally Posted by oscar

Sorry to hear your not sleeping well.... I have some pills for that!. I've been down with something horrible all week also. I got all ready to leave at 5 to go to work and started being sick again. It could be the 'Champix' i started to stop me smoking.
Without turning this thread into a BNP patry debate, there was one issue that i learnt about very recently.

LiveLeak.com - Only the BNP Made Something Happen, Says Grandfather of Latest Muslim Sex Grooming Scandal Victim

I checked this out..... this is not propoganda and really happened. The police knew about about these gangs grooming young girls but turned a blind eye (allegedly) for fear of sparking trouble where in theat area there is a large muslim community. There were many many victems and the BNP were keeping their eye on it although other local councillors tried to play it down. Eventually, the BNP threatened to go public to the press with it that the police were doing nothing. Soon after, arrests were made.

How did you check it out?

[oscar]

Originally Posted by kazalala

How did you check it out?

I talked to the members who brought the police in and got the arrests.

[kazalala]

Originally Posted by oscar

I talked to the members who brought the police in and got the arrests.

ohhh right

[oscar]

Originally Posted by kazalala

ohhh right

Yeah..... I got one of these new inventions. They are little boxes that you talk into..... oh what are they called now ???? ummmm ummmm Oh yeah..... Phones

[kazalala]

Originally Posted by kazalala

ohhh right

Originally Posted by oscar

Yeah..... I got one of these new inventions. They are little boxes that you talk into..... oh what are they called now ???? ummmm ummmm Oh yeah..... Phones

hmmm sarcasm