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Old 08-20-2009, 02:12 PM   #21 (permalink)
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He was a date. Nice guy. Early signs are that he might be happy with no parental responsibility beyond financial. That's sad to me.
Life is life and thus should always be welcomed. Congratulate her and offer her help.
If any student sees her and her upcoming 'baby bump' and takes that as a sign that getting pregnant is cool......they are a lost casue because anything you say to them won't register. The only thing that might possibly help, and if she is willing, have her go to all the classrooms and explain her situation. She has a job and can support herself and the baby when it arrives; she has medical insurance (you all do right?), and has a stable environment to raise a child.
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Old 08-20-2009, 04:48 PM   #22 (permalink)
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He was a date. Nice guy. Early signs are that he might be happy with no parental responsibility beyond financial. That's sad to me.
In this case I'd turn it around and rather than worry about what an unwed mother looks like to the kids, I'd use it as an example of how unwed fathers need to step up to the plate and be real men.

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Old 08-20-2009, 05:46 PM   #23 (permalink)
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In this case I'd turn it around and rather than worry about what an unwed mother looks like to the kids, I'd use it as an example of how unwed fathers need to step up to the plate and be real men.
Vilifying a complete stranger is pointless and would only serve to satisfy, well, you, Red. The woman is quite friendly with the guy and seems extremely comfortable with the arrangement.

Your unwed father scenario would only work if he were also a teacher at the school.
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Old 08-20-2009, 06:28 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Vilifying a complete stranger is pointless and would only serve to satisfy, well, you, Red. The woman is quite friendly with the guy and seems extremely comfortable with the arrangement.

Your unwed father scenario would only work if he were also a teacher at the school.
Was that a pot shot, Acc?
If she's fine with it then everyone else should be too. Which makes the original request for advice kinda moot.
I read your post to say that the woman being unmarried would set a detrimental example for the students. My point was that she didn't get that way alone yet what kind of example does the man set for the guys? I think I see your point about teachers....do I? Yet I rather side with them being people and not role models. That's not a slight either, that's me saying when you set people up to be role models you will often be disappointed. I also think the father does matter as an example, even if he isn't a teacher. For anyone to give this woman a black mark while letting the guy go free would be very poor judgement. But.....and here is where I think you misunderstood me.... All I said was if anyone should point the finger, they had better point two. That is what is fair. I didn't suggest vilifying anyone. I see where some people might be more conservative in their views than I am on t his, but in the end I don't think this teacher's situation is anyone's business.

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It was more of a teasing poke than a pot shot. Sorry. I'll respond more in the morning but I didn't want to let that go wrongly.
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Treat it as hypothetical. Teen pregnancy is rampant, especially in our poor inner-city district. Teachers are role models.

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Nothing to disscuss. Grown woman pregnant .......what the hell has it to do with us ..
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There is a strong possibility that this popular teacher, through her modeling, will convince young girls that they themselves can have and take care of a baby alone with no problems.


Oh god don't tell me your country or society is that backwards?


and yes even in a Catholic school they don't get dissmissed ...proven cases.

Good god what year are you guys living in?
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It was more of a teasing poke than a pot shot. Sorry. I'll respond more in the morning but I didn't want to let that go wrongly.
*whew* Thanks Acc. I'll take a teasing poke any day.

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Nothing to disscuss. Grown woman pregnant .......what the hell has it to do with us ..
Well, I think I has to do with us whether we care to admit it or not.

If we look at it from hoppys postpoint, she must be a conservative because liberals are no longer bothering to birth babies, are they?

If you don't think that miserable mothers and co-workers will spend their free time speculating and trying to get details, guess again. It's not back-wards or behind the times, it's human nature I suppose.

It's a tough one for the moral group. On the one hand they want to be supportive of a person who has chosen to carry it. On the other, they can't help but hope that she and he will do the 'right' thing... even though he apparently has no interest in fatherhood.. the 'right' thing.

It's a tough one for the teacher. Her life is over as she knew it. And she knows it. Going where she wants. Doing what she wants. Living for herself. That's all done now... it's all about us, not me... from here on out.

A tough call. But surprisingly simple. I wish her the best
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It is a tough call. That's what I was getting at. I think it's a little glib just to say it's nobody's business and it shouldn't matter because it does matter, regardless of whose business it is. She's going to be put in a very uncomfortable position very soon. Some girl somewhere is going to hold her up as an example to prove her point, whatever that point may be. It happens to anyone that has contact with teenagers. My heart goes out to the teacher.

Do women still advise girls to save sex for the man they fall in love with? I know the 'wait till marriage' gig is over. If she wants to say something like that, she's got to be prepared to discuss her mistake. It's scary to make yourself vulnerable like that.

In most cases of a teen having a baby in our school district, the baby would have a far better chance at a better life if he/she were given to a loving adoptive family. It would be useless for this teacher to even discuss such an option with any but the most mature students.

The guy's responsible, and hopefully will fulfill as many of his responsibilities as she will let him, but none of that will likely ever be known by the students.

The teacher is going to be a great mom with lots of support. Grandma is over the moon at finally getting a grandchild. Her kid's going to be fine - more than fine. She's my friend and no one likes to watch a friend go through a difficult situation.

I phrased the op poorly. I was hoping for a generalized conversation about culture and values and didn't want to push it in any direction. You never know what path these threads will take, eh?
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