Slavery can be a Good Thing

[QUINNSCOMMENTARY]

Originally Posted by wildhorses

I don't even think they would require a ticket. People from other countries show up in boats here all the time. Not really commerical boats. And they are people who really have nothing at all. I don't think Africans at the time would necessarily have to be educated to get here....they would just have to know the country was here. Some have come from Cuba on inner tubes even....not even in a boat. I hear the Aussies are always turning away boatloads of people. In the 1980's refugees came here on boats from Viet Nam. Everyone called them the "boat people" for that reason. They managed to come here on rickety little boats that you would not even think they were sea worthy...just to look at them.

One thing is for sure, you clearly sound like you live on planet San Francisco.

[wildhorses]

Originally Posted by QUINNSCOMMENTARY

Really, there are 33.1 million immigrants living in the US, It is estimated that the current population of African Immigrants is 600,000. Does that probability you speak of sound realistic in light of the fact that immigrants from the entire continent of Africa today only equal 0.018 of the entire immigrant population? I suspect that in the last century the percentage was even lower.

It is realistic Quinn. Previous generations did immigrate here, so their decendents are not "immigrants"....they are American citizens. I have several friends whose ancestors immigrated here (not by way of slavery) from Africa. And Africans also immigrate to other countries. And we are not only speaking of Africans who immigrate to America...but any other country with a standard of living equal to USA...and there are quite a few of those. So back to the point. Those Africans forced into slavery could have immigrated here or any other of a number of wonderful countries. Africans immigrate just like everyone else.

[wildhorses]

Originally Posted by QUINNSCOMMENTARY

One thing is for sure, you clearly sound like you live on planet San Francisco.

Is that the best you can do Quinn? I am disappointed.

[QUINNSCOMMENTARY]

Originally Posted by wildhorses

Is that the best you can do Quinn? I am disappointed.

We are at an impasse, so whats the point.

[K.Snyder]

Originally Posted by Nomad

Using convoluted reasoning I can think of dozens of ways rewards offset tragedy.
Example:
Family of 5 gets strapped in to a mortgage they can no longer afford when the balloon payment pops up. 1 spouse suddenly dies in a horrific car wreck leaving the other with a life insurance pay out thus saving the remaining family from losing their home and they get to go furniture shopping.
Good Times !

The idea that the person whom died was not murdered negates the very idea the event were sacrificial. Without sacrifice you can't stage a question asking to decide between two variables associated with acceptance.

My suggestion is is that the descendants of the slaves would have to understand the difference of those two variables in direct corelation to what it is said people had given up. They can't make that comparison.

[AussiePam]

Originally Posted by K.Snyder

The idea that the person whom died was not murdered negates the very idea the event were sacrificial. Without sacrifice you can't stage a question asking to decide between two variables associated with acceptance.

My suggestion is is that the descendants of the slaves would have to understand the difference of those two variables in direct corelation to what it is said people had given up. They can't make that comparison.

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[K.Snyder]

Originally Posted by AussiePam

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[Bruv]

Originally Posted by QUINNSCOMMENTARY

Are the millions of Americans who rightly lament over the plight of their ancestors better off than they would be if slavery had not existed?

......... but given the past and current state of Africa over the last 150 years it would seem that the price paid by African slaves provided rich rewards for many of their decedents.

I have not read the thread so apologise if my point has been mentioned.

What would be the state of Africa if slavery and then the following colonialisation had not happened ?

Maybe Africa with all its riches would have been THE dominant continent.

[K.Snyder]

Originally Posted by Bruv

I have not read the thread so apologise if my point has been mentioned.

What would be the state of Africa if slavery and then the following colonialisation had not happened ?

Maybe Africa with all its riches would have been THE dominant continent.

I'd blame the lack of unity in Africa before I'd blame the International Monetary fund and World Bank.

All those "resources" and they still have such a diversity of "wealth". I don't buy it!

[BTS]

Originally Posted by oscar

I am currently living in a city of Britain .. Bristol that has a slavery history.

Bristol now hangs it's head in shame. they have recently officially apologised for the misery they brought to the people.

When is America going to have the balls to do the same Quinn?
It is not against the grain to be humble.
If our country can recognise what they did in the "Triangle", why can't you?

Sheesh we (USA) have been apologising to minorities since after our civil war (which started out over states rights not slavery!!).

I Pity that you live in a city that hangs it head in shame and can't "get on with gettin on"