The War on Drugs

[oscar]

When Cannibis was reduced to Grade C here, the kids thought that it was legal, acceptable and so did their idiot parents.
I was asked to get involved a battle that a councillor has locally where very sadly, a car travelling at speed, crossed the road and plunged into a wall, very close to my home.
Inside were three local very popular young youths who were all killed. One was 18 the other two 17.
The driver was found to have cocaine and twice the drink limit in his system.
One had canninbis, the other lad was clear.
On their graves in a local cemetary, inlaid into black granite, on one them, is a cannibis leaf insignia, at the request of his parents.
Councillors want this removed. The public who visit relatives in there want it removed. I personally find it abhorant. Police are wary as to not upset the parents.
They went to their early deaths due to the excesses of alcohol, drugs under age, and one of them drove the car killing his two friends at an est 95 mph

I have had to rely on sedatives and sleeping pills for some months. When i wanted to stop them, i couldn't. I was shocked to learn that i'd have withdrawal symtoms which i did when i cut the dose right back.
I believe doctors are set upon by these giant drug manufacturers to "Sell" this kind of drug. Docs are turning people into legal drug addicts. They know they are doing it but continue.

I find all of this disturbing,

[spot]

It never crossed my mind to suggest it as an educational movie but is Lock Stock And Two Smoking Barrels relevant?

You know that people die and kill at the wheel from alcohol abuse. Driving under the influence includes lots of other things besides alcohol. I don't see that getting their supply from a street trader on the Fishponds Road is healthier than getting it from Tescos.

[Grizzled_Bear]

I don't think that prohibition is the answer to the drug problem. Aside from creating a dangerous black market , it asserts that adults aren't responsible enough to make their own decisions on what they want to put in their bodies.

[Grizzled_Bear]

I mean, if you want to smoke heroin out of a pipe made of crack, by all means do it. Just don't steal my tv to support your habit or plow into me while driving 90 in a 35.

[spot]

I don't imagine it makes a person more or less likely to drive badly on heroin whether he bought it from a street dealer or from a corner store. The corner store would at least sell a certified purity and strength and he'd not take twice what he expected to. The corner store price might be lower too, he'd need to steal fewer TVs.

[wildhorses]

In my opinion, they should just legalize drugs. They should use the drug enforcement money to create drug treatment programs for those who fall over the edge.

People who want to use drugs will do so regardless of whether it is legal or not. Most who do use them, do it recreationally and it causes no real problem for them.

And then there are others who sink in the quicksand of drug addiction....and they put them in jail???? This makes no sense to me. They are jailing ill people.

They need to use the money for drug treatment and counseling to find the root cause of a person's addiction and solve it. Then the money is well spent and the person can be free of addiction and lead a productive life.

Jailing drug addicts will never solve the problem. And if it is legalized then you also take the sales end out of the hands of thugs.

[oscar]

Originally Posted by wildhorses

In my opinion, they should just legalize drugs.

Oh that's brilliant.


Yes, in effect, put the drug lords out of business.

In return, give young kids an endless supply of what ever they want.
Governments won't have to invest in therepy, because they will all be dead.
Babie's will be born addicted, deformed and in pain.
Kids can then drive a car while under the influence of drugs inbetween this therepy and crash into your family's car and wipe them out.

Have you ever been anywhere and seen 14 year old girls on heroin?
Spot will agree that Hartcliffe is not a nice place.

I'll stick with the laws we have got here thanks.

[spot]

Originally Posted by oscar

In return, give young kids an endless supply of what ever they want.

Do off-licenses give young kids an endless supply of alcohol? It depends on what you call young and how you define give, I suppose.

[oscar]

Originally Posted by oscar

When Cannibis was reduced to Grade C here, the kids thought that it was legal, acceptable and so did their idiot parents.
I was asked to get involved a battle that a councillor has locally where very sadly, a car travelling at speed, crossed the road and plunged into a wall, very close to my home.
Inside were three local very popular young youths who were all killed. One was 18 the other two 17.
The driver was found to have cocaine and twice the drink limit in his system.
One had canninbis, the other lad was clear.

Does my earlier post ring any bells Spot??
Badmington Road, just over a year ago.
Thank god there was not a car coming the other way with a family in it, when this one flew across the other side of the road at 90 mph.

[spot]

You never answered my response to that either, you can't just re-present it. I gave my reaction already. By all means comment on my reaction, I'd like that, we could then make progress.