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    Oaklahoma And Marriage

    If Runamucklicans have their way nonbelievers will need to go out of the state to marry.

    Oklahoma is banning atheists from getting married - Americas - World - The Independent

    A bill that would restrict the right to marry to people of faith and require all marriage licenses to be approved by a member of clergy was approved by the Oklahoma state House on Tuuesday.
    House Bill 1125, which would effectively ban all secular marriages in the state, was passed by a Republican majority and will now go to the state Senate for consideration.
    "Marriage was not instituted by government. It was instituted by God. There is no reason for Oklahoma or any state to be involved in marriage," said one of the bill's Republican supporters Rep. Dennis Johnson, though marriage is a legal contract.
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    They are actually after the gays, it would seem. I suppose if you are a gay atheist, it would be the double smack across the cheek.

    It seems this bill isn't fuelled by a desire to segregate atheists however but is a thinly-veiled attack on gay marriage. By restricting the issuing of marriage licenses to the clergy and not judges and court clerks, the bill would make it harder for same-sex marriages to take place.
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    I can already see the hole in THAT logic.
    One of my Oklahoma cousins is a preacher at a church primarily attended by Gay Christians.
    He would be more than happy to sign those licenses.
    It may not be so much that I've conceded your point as that you just can't hear me rolling my eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post
    I can already see the hole in THAT logic.
    One of my Oklahoma cousins is a preacher at a church primarily attended by Gay Christians.
    He would be more than happy to sign those licenses.
    I hope he can withstand an old fashioned shootout and possible bombing.
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    Is there a central register of births, deaths and marriage in America and who is it that runs it ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruv View Post
    Is there a central register of births, deaths and marriage in America and who is it that runs it ?
    Nope, each State keeps its own data, collected from registrars in each county.
    It may not be so much that I've conceded your point as that you just can't hear me rolling my eyes.

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    I'll bet the National somethingorother has it all too in some drawer somewhere. Patriot Act - remember?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post
    Nope, each State keeps its own data, collected from registrars in each county.
    Are the State and the County registrars connected to the church ?
    I thought the Constitution separates Church and state
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruv View Post
    Are the State and the County registrars connected to the church ?
    I thought the Constitution separates Church and state
    No, completely separate.
    However, ministers are licensed to perform marriage ceremonies, as are Judges and Justice of the Peace.
    And they can fill out the form that certifies you have been married.

    This new law would change the process in Oklahoma, to require that a minister signs the documents. No more Justice of the Peace ceremonies.
    Somehow, I think this will not get past the federal courts as constitutionally valid.
    It may not be so much that I've conceded your point as that you just can't hear me rolling my eyes.

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    Re: Oaklahoma And Marriage

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    I'm a certified minister of a nondenominational church, thus I can perform marriage ceremonies and sign the documents, and I have done so. I'm sure there are people such as myself in Oklahoma and I wonder how they will fare.
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