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    Re: Are we being hijacked?

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    I think it is a low budget horror flick. There always seems to be market for those.

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    Re: Are we being hijacked?

    The Author if this article is particularly faced with the Muslim situation in England, but this applies to any number of collective groups.

    This part of the article is perhaps the most important. Separating the subjects from any specific ideology and discussing extremist (right, left, religious, Socialist, Shi'ite, Suni, Christian, whatever ) without the ideology.

    Therefore, if we are going to defeat extremism, conventional strategies won’t work. We have to see it for what it is—an epidemic of parasitic infections that feeds on our revulsion and hate.

    Some will argue that regarding extremists as biological vectors rather than malicious individuals confiscates their agency and deflects their responsibility, allowing them to weaponize victimhood.

    In reality, regarding terrorists as victims of a parasitic ideology doesn’t absolve them of responsibility—it merely seeks to explain why they failed to uphold it. Personal responsibility is something that must be imposed on individuals irrespective of the truth, because holding people responsible deterministically makes them act more responsibly. But if they fail in their duty to safeguard their sanity for whatever reason, they should be treated as victims because that is what they are. If a jihadi terrorist were perfectly rational, he wouldn’t choose to subject himself to a jihadi ideology. He is therefore a victim of the vulnerabilities of his own mind, and undeserving of hate.

    On the other hand, if we continue to see extremists as monsters, then we really will be absolving them of responsibility, because using good or evil as an explanation is the very epitome of essentialism. If someone is evil, they are doomed to commit evil acts; if they later became good, they wouldn’t be truly evil.

    The mistake of seeing evil as something inherent to certain individuals is shared by all extremists, left, right, and Islamist. In fact, it could be argued that much of the world’s violence comes from seeing others as inherently evil and therefore irredeemable and unworthy of life. By allowing ourselves to become vessels of hate, we allow the parasite to work through us, furthering the divisions between Muslims and non-Muslims, and thereby making the Good-versus-Evil narrative more convincing so that it can better spread to other minds.

    So how do we stop it? The usual way to kill off a parasite is to break its life cycle. Myrmeconema neotropicum would soon go extinct if birds learned to tell the difference between berries and bloated ants. Likewise, extremist ideologies would eventually die out if people learned to tell the difference between monsters and madmen. Firebombings, shootings and vehicular rampages wouldn’t yield enough rage to sustain hateful ideologies if everyone knew they were acts of spontaneous insanity rather than organized evil.
    I do think he overlooks the simply bat**** crazy people who will find something to get wound up over and will use whatever he can find to feed his drive to destroy others.
    Look at the recent behavior of the guy in Lone Tree, Colorado, or going back a few years, the theater shooting in Aurora, Colorado. and a number of other incidents in other parts of the world.
    People simply lose touch with reality and with society, and allow this "parasitic behavior", as Mr Bohgal calls it, to take on a life of its own.
    It may not be so much that I've conceded your point as that you just can't hear me rolling my eyes.

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    Re: Are we being hijacked?

    Forgetting the fact that the second guy (as the press keeps telling us was a afghany refugee, and muslim) the two guys who have now committed many murders and attempted murders by running people over in the melbourne CBD reminicient of the European terrorist crimr werent extremist or terrorists.....they both had drug and mental conditions...both known to the police before hand... and basically went off the deep end.
    So what the author of that article is suggesting kind of makes sense.... the crimes are similar but the reasonings seems inconsequential

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    Re: Are we being hijacked?

    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post
    The Author if this article is particularly faced with the Muslim situation in England, but this applies to any number of collective groups.

    This part of the article is perhaps the most important. Separating the subjects from any specific ideology and discussing extremist (right, left, religious, Socialist, Shi'ite, Suni, Christian, whatever ) without the ideology.



    I do think he overlooks the simply bat**** crazy people who will find something to get wound up over and will use whatever he can find to feed his drive to destroy others.
    Look at the recent behavior of the guy in Lone Tree, Colorado, or going back a few years, the theater shooting in Aurora, Colorado. and a number of other incidents in other parts of the world.
    People simply lose touch with reality and with society, and allow this "parasitic behavior", as Mr Bohgal calls it, to take on a life of its own.
    Good point. We need a mental healthcare system that can actually help. Too often, these days, someone will call for help on behalf on a family member or friend and the usual response is to send the police. This ends badly too much of the time. There doesn't seem to be a good way, under the current system, for someone to seek help for themselves or for others without the risk of it escalating to something no one wants.

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    Hmmm...thats very true. I believe we need a rethink on the subject of psych institutions, i think it might be time to bring these institutions back.

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    Re: Are we being hijacked?

    Interesting theory but you just know the islamists are going to claim the parasite is western ideas of equality and freedom corrupting their young and most eapecially letting women think they cann decide who they marry and do things like vote and drive cars and god forbid not wear a tent while out on in public, the christians are going to say it is the immorality of tolerating notions ideas like marraige equality for gay people and tolerating the breakdoiwn in family values with things like dovorce and single parent families becoming normalised and we should all turn to biblical values and start stoning witches the right will blame socialsim and fake news, the left everybody else. We cdid have a cure called the enlightenment but the parasite is very good at fighting back

    I suppose the question is how to destroy the parasite without destroying the body and doesn;t actualluy care if it destroys the body. There will always be some parasite coming along claiming we need it.

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    GMC.... as a female....technically they are only 100 years behind us..... think about it.

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    Re: Are we being hijacked?

    I read the article twice, I have no idea what this "Slender Man' thing is. I must live in a vacuum. Where in the article is this "Slender Man" thing and just what is the "Slender Man" thing. Sorry for being so uninformed. I even googled it and still don't understand.

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    Re: Are we being hijacked?

    Quote Originally Posted by YZGI View Post
    I read the article twice, I have no idea what this "Slender Man' thing is. I must live in a vacuum. Where in the article is this "Slender Man" thing and just what is the "Slender Man" thing. Sorry for being so uninformed. I even googled it and still don't understand.
    it comes up about halfway through the article.
    A quick google of Slender Man will give you more than you really want to know about it.
    but to start :
    The Slender Man stabbing occurred on Saturday, May 31, 2014, in the American city of Waukesha in Waukesha County, Wisconsin, when 12-year-olds Anissa Weier and Morgan Geyser lured Payton Leutner, of the same age, into the woods and stabbed her 19 times in an attempt to impress the fictional character Slender ...
    It may not be so much that I've conceded your point as that you just can't hear me rolling my eyes.

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    Re: Are we being hijacked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post
    it comes up about halfway through the article.
    A quick google of Slender Man will give you more than you really want to know about it.
    but to start :
    Like i mentioned previously whats the excuse of every other child murderers? Sounds more like a "defense" rather than some viral outbreak.....twelve year olds take oudgie boards to the extreme to spook themselves out....but murder to impress a made up satanic character? Did they live in an ultra religious area?..... the devil made me do it.
    Just wondering if any of you guys have ever come into contact with a true young psychopath? I have. Most beautiful polite engaging (known her since tbe age of three to eight) child youll ever meet...just a wholesome lovely child.... knives are locked away from her. And a very good eye is kept on her when at home around younger children and babies.
    I can garrantee that putting slender man in her head would produce some horrific results......but to the average child? Nah....weve had the boogie man before now. Havent heard of children sacrificing their little friends to him.

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