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    Jeremy Corbyn?

    The 9 charts that show the ‘left-wing’ policies of Jeremy Corbyn the public actually agrees with - UK Politics - UK - The Independent

    Never actually heard of him before. Ouitside of london and the souith east I suspect he might have more appeal. Fed up with a mass media including the bbc that seem to be of the opinion that left wing policies are a bad thing and don;t seem to make the connection that it ios left wing policies that brought us the welfare state and all the other things that poeople take for granted and that the tories want to dismantle. People don't vote because both parties are basicaly the same.

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    On the Rainbow of Politics (with Red being Labour & Violet being Tory), I guess I'm Yellow (Rchard Of York Gave Battle In Vain, for those of you that can't remember the colours of the rainbow), and believe that in order for any Political System to work there has to be a mixture of both elements. Extremism of either side will never come close to meeting the needs of everyone, and the more extreme it becomes, the fewer people it serves.

    Jeremy Corbyn seems to be very much at the Red end of the spectrum, which the Labour Party do need, but not by that much. Of course, what is more worrying still is the way that the Conservatives are encouraging their members to pay their £3 fee to Labour in order to be able to vote for him as Leader of the Labour Party, in the belief that he will do Labour more harm than good. Perhaps they're right. Perhaps not, but one thing's for sure, if anyone were to ask me the name of any of the competition candidates & what they stand for, I wouldn't have a clue.

    However, policies aside, he would need to smarten up his public image in order to gain credibility. All he would need is an official tabard & he could easily pass for a Big Issue Vendor. I know that the theory of that is shallow & that he should only be judged on what he has to offer. Unfortunately, in the real world, things don't happen that way.

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    Re: Jeremy Corbyn?

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    On the Rainbow of Politics (with Red being Labour & Violet being Tory), I guess I'm Yellow (Rchard Of York Gave Battle In Vain, for those of you that can't remember the colours of the rainbow), and believe that in order for any Political System to work there has to be a mixture of both elements. Extremism of either side will never come close to meeting the needs of everyone, and the more extreme it becomes, the fewer people it serves.

    Jeremy Corbyn seems to be very much at the Red end of the spectrum, which the Labour Party do need, but not by that much. Of course, what is more worrying still is the way that the Conservatives are encouraging their members to pay their £3 fee to Labour in order to be able to vote for him as Leader of the Labour Party, in the belief that he will do Labour more harm than good. Perhaps they're right. Perhaps not, but one thing's for sure, if anyone were to ask me the name of any of the competition candidates & what they stand for, I wouldn't have a clue.

    However, policies aside, he would need to smarten up his public image in order to gain credibility. All he would need is an official tabard & he could easily pass for a Big Issue Vendor. I know that the theory of that is shallow & that he should only be judged on what he has to offer. Unfortunately, in the real world, things don't happen that way.
    If that is true it may backfire on them showing them up as the cynical lowlifes that think politics is just a game that they are. People don't like being patronised or tken for granted or for idiots although Labour in scotland haven't grasped that yet and just thin k they need better spin. Most people IMO see parliament and politicians as venal and corrupt as it is.

    Corbyn did make the telling point that membership of the labour party under blair and brown plummeted I don't think labour grasp what a poisoned chalice blair now is to many ordinary voters having him criticise a move to the left and moot forgetting principles and doing what gets them elected is hardly7 likely IMO to win labour many converts if his acolytes win again.

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    Very many years ago when I was in conflict with the newly created Child Support Agency I wrote to many MP's to state my case, Jeremy Corbyn was one of the few that actually sent me a proper reply.
    I have always thought of him as Tony Benn lite but without the high visibility that Benn gained. He is a conviction politician, one of only a few these days.
    I can never understand the feeling amongst Labour that they should lean closer to the Tories and that their core values are somehow redundant these days.
    There is still a lingering embarrassment about the Looney Left hanging on since the winter of discontent caused by the Labour supported Unions that needed to be crushed......that is how I see it.......not that I think that is correct. Like kids brought up strict catholic, Maggie has left the British with obsessional and excessive guilt/fear of trades unions.
    I think chugging along in the middle of the political road causes problems, what we need is an occasional extreme swing one way or the other.
    We had it after the war creating the world most of us grew up in, created by the left, all the social infrastructure that makes a humane society work for the people. Then along came the right wing,ideologically smashing it all up, now we need the Left to return.
    The swings help to prune the excesses of the opposite extreme party. Keeps the nutters from either side taking over.
    Ideally I would opt for a left leaning socialist run country, but realistically believe that complacency sets in and that all powers that be need a kick up the ass on a regular basis, just to keep them on their toes.

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    Re: Jeremy Corbyn?

    I found this article somewhat interesting.

    Donald Trump and Jeremy Corbyn Are Running the Same Con on Voters
    It may not be so much that I've conceded your point as that you just can't hear me rolling my eyes.

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    That's shockingly unfair. Mr Corbin, along with his fellow-Islington MP Chris Smith, put in laudable public service to their constituents when I was one of them. The blog article simply fails to understand that their position is no more and no less than the traditional Socialism the Labour Party represented between its birth before the Great War and its extinction at the hands of that wretched calamity Tony Blair.
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    I still agree with the ideals that Tony Blair stood for. You can't have an either or situation with extreme right or extreme left. There has to be some degree of compromise to reach the Goldilocks effect.

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    Re: Jeremy Corbyn?

    Quote Originally Posted by FourPart View Post
    I still agree with the ideals that Tony Blair stood for.
    What kin ideals ?...............sorry ladies.
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    Iron yer shirt and put a tie on Mr Corbyn. This is a job interview.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruv View Post
    What kin ideals ?...............sorry ladies.
    Those "ideals" have made him a 'kin rich bastard.......sorry ladies.

    Oh, and his missus.
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