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    Life in london goes on as normal and the daily mail stamps it's foot in anger

    Anti-Brexit marchers REFUSE to call off London demo | Daily Mail Online

    Came across this mob slightly more sane approach. Too bas alastair campbell is involved in it.

    Anti-Brexit protesters march on parliament to demand their voice is heard - Top Stories - The New European

    This wasn't a terrorist attack it was a sad loner attracted to extremist poliotics just like the guy that killed jo cox. I

    I would love to hear what you think of this.

    http://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-...team_1_4851882

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    Re: Life in london goes on as normal and the daily mail stamps it's foot in anger

    What i thought from the beginning. Its not what i would call a terrorist attack. ..... but people may differ.
    People seem to want answers, why is it that "disgruntled" isnt an answer?

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    Re: Life in london goes on as normal and the daily mail stamps it's foot in anger

    It seems he was born in Kent of a single mother and had a disturbed upbringing, moving around the south east. He was a coloured kid in a white school and felt the difference. The local news here (don't know if it was shown elsewhere) had interviews with school pals and associates. He had a short fuse and a violent streak, slashing someones face with a knife, another time leaping a bar to glass someone, outwardly a nice guy, but damaged who happened to convert to Islam, probably in prison.

    Can't blame Islam for this week's events.
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    I see the ight wing press and nutters are using it to call for the police to be armed and to have the right to snoop on everybody's private messaging and stop you tube allowing extremist videos. Does this mean UKIP and the tory right will be banned I wonder after all it was them that radicailsed jo cox's killer and who have made xenophobia fashionable.

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    Re: Life in london goes on as normal and the daily mail stamps it's foot in anger

    Read the New European regularly. Good articles, joined up thinking. Must get round to subscribing.

    I hope that the far right and UKIP are held responsible for brexit. If it is a raging success then they get the credit. If, as I believe, it is a complete shambles and a total disaster for this country, leading to widespread poverty extending well into the middle classes, no opportunities for anyone who can't afford private education and a shorter, less healthy lifespan following the inevitable cuts to the NHS which are already happening under this far right brexit government, owing to having Hunt in charge who is slime capable of nothing but ambition, and the break up of the UK. Well done brexiters. Any other way you want to trash the future of your children and grandchildren?

    And if we weren't busy trashing the country through brexit there might have been the time and spare thinking capacity to deal with the NHS' issues. As it is, it's all swamped by brexit. Along with climate change which hasn't gone away just because the far right and trump think it's a liberal fantasy.

    If you are a brexiter and think trumpists are unbelievably stupid for believing in Trump you should look at yourself again. Trumpists are just American brexiters. Same groups (KKK/Combat 18 and the extreme far right plus dupes), same blind faith, same stupidity.
    The crowd: "Yes! We are all individuals!"
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    Re: Life in london goes on as normal and the daily mail stamps it's foot in anger

    I saw this on Twitter, I hope it is wrong.

    Early warning signs of fascism.
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    Religion and Government intertwined.
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    Re: Life in london goes on as normal and the daily mail stamps it's foot in anger

    I think the only one that doesn't apply to the brexit movement is Religion and Gov't intertwined.
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    Re: Life in london goes on as normal and the daily mail stamps it's foot in anger

    Quote Originally Posted by Clodhopper View Post
    Read the New European regularly. Good articles, joined up thinking. Must get round to subscribing.

    I hope that the far right and UKIP are held responsible for brexit. If it is a raging success then they get the credit. If, as I believe, it is a complete shambles and a total disaster for this country, leading to widespread poverty extending well into the middle classes, no opportunities for anyone who can't afford private education and a shorter, less healthy lifespan following the inevitable cuts to the NHS which are already happening under this far right brexit government, owing to having Hunt in charge who is slime capable of nothing but ambition, and the break up of the UK. Well done brexiters. Any other way you want to trash the future of your children and grandchildren?

    And if we weren't busy trashing the country through brexit there might have been the time and spare thinking capacity to deal with the NHS' issues. As it is, it's all swamped by brexit. Along with climate change which hasn't gone away just because the far right and trump think it's a liberal fantasy.

    If you are a brexiter and think trumpists are unbelievably stupid for believing in Trump you should look at yourself again. Trumpists are just American brexiters. Same groups (KKK/Combat 18 and the extreme far right plus dupes), same blind faith, same stupidity.
    Alastair campbell is cropping up. He has a toxic legacy but on this he is a good advocate. Fed up being told we just have to accept this in a democracy you have the right to change your mind. I think a lot of poiple who didn't bother voting the last time would turn out in droves another time.

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    think the only one that doesn't apply to the brexit movement is Religion and Gov't intertwined.
    What you havn't sen the calls for a return to christian values?

    Britain must defend its Christian values against terrorism, David Cameron says | The Independent

    Not to mention the growth in faith based schools. Now we see calls for the teaching of critical think so people aren't taken in by false facts so easily. I can just see that going down well in a religious school where they are being taught not to question belief..

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    Re: Life in london goes on as normal and the daily mail stamps it's foot in anger

    What you havn't sen the calls for a return to christian values?

    I was reconsidering that for a different reason: It seems to me brexit belief is very religious-like in one way. Most of what it seems many believe is faith unsupported by acceptable evidence and there are a lots of myths - even falsehoods - but they don't interfere with the central belief (that the EU is evil).

    (Cameron is just repeating an old Tory mantra. I don't really connect that one with brexit)
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    Re: Life in london goes on as normal and the daily mail stamps it's foot in anger

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    Since this IS a thread about life in London going on as normal, I'd just like to add my sense of pride in my city: It seems more than just propaganda that ordinary people immediately pitched in to help in the Westminster Bridge incident. Added to that a friend of mine happened to be in our local area recently when an old lady tripped on the pavement and fell, smacking her nose. Blood everywhere and she herself dazed. Every person who came past stopped to check and offer help.

    I mention it because London and Londoners are often characterised as cold, unfeeling and unfriendly. I think it's not really true overall (though of course in a city of 8 million there will be some).
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    The crowd: "Yes! We are all individuals!"
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