WW3 - New World Order - Pole Shift - Age of Peace (2006-2012)

[charles_r51]

the babylonians, regardless of some modrnists' thinking, had a large number of asronomical events chronicled in their writings, though many are based on previus cultural beliefs and knowledge they gleaned from earlier civilizations' writings, dealt with many curreently unrealized knowledge which today scholars refer to as myths and tales. whether those stories were taken from other civilizations before them, or adaptations of stories passed down from ages past, is really worth further study. unfortunately, those who should be studying the past for grains of fact, are mostly ignoring the basis of the stories, prteferring to examine the stories as myths rather than historical remeberances from days past. perhaps some day, soon, that will become apparent, but not yet. and we may not even be alive to see that day of realization. we shall see.

[TruthBringer]

The highly developed Ancient Mayan civilization that existed long ago really was capable of making ultra-long calculations of planetary orbits, not only the Earth's, but also those of Venus and other planets. Also, they were somehow able to calculate an amazingly accurate value for the speed of the polar field of the Sun.

Their accuracy was even better than ours! The error they made hardly exists in practice. This is not only unbelievably fascinating, but also alarming. Because they could count so well, the Ancient Mayans were able to determine the position of the Earth around the Sun at a point thousands of years ahead of time. Their calculations were so precise that, just like the Ancient Atlanteans who did the same 12,000 years beforehand, they could predict a solar or planetary event almost to the second!

The Ancient Mayans converted everything into codes and "Holy Numbers", which is one of the reasons that many researchers are still in the dark. To determine the Earth around the Sun, they used three approximation numbers! It is very confusing, and it is not hard to see how they have misled scientists, who describe Ancient Mayan astronomy as "advanced", while in fact it should have been valued as "super brilliant."

[TruthBringer]

Venus meant everything to the Ancient Mayans. Exactly as it did in 9792 BC, Venus is going to make a retrograde loop above the Orion constellation sometime around the year 2012. Here we have an incredibly serious warning, because this year correlates with the end of the Mayan calendar.

If you use the synodic time period of Venus, known by the Ancient Mayans, you can confirm the story of the legendary Atlantis. Reasoning further on this case, you can decipher the Ancient Mayan calendars and their Dresden Codex.

In order to display their technical advancement, the Ancient Mayans built their temples in such a way that they exactly indicate the vernal equinoctial point. And they incorporate other features that show that there is an irrefutable relation between their incredibly exact astronomical knowledge and the construction of their temples.

[TruthBringer]

The period of eight days when Venus disappears behind the Sun indicates that Venus and the Sun are closely connected. Venus refers to the bygone switches of the magnetic field of the Sun, and also to the big one to come, which will cause the next Pole-Shift on Earth.

On the basis of the codes it is possible to make many additional decipherings of the Ancient Mayan's numbers. The method is identicle to the Ancient Egyptian one, and they are based on the Venus codes that were used by the Ancient Atlanteans. In quite a shocking manner they illustrate the extremely accurate astronomical numbers that the Ancient Mayans had at their disposal.

Furthermore, the Ancient Mayans knew the sidereal orbit period of the Earth. These discoveries will cause a revolution in the further interpretation of the knowledge of the Ancient Mayans. And that is putting it very mildly. When you have a look at the deciphering, you will see that the magical year of the Ancient Mayans - which was the source for their calendars - can be recovered with the help of the Mayan's value for the synodic period of Venus. It is an essential part of the whole, and an undeniable proof for the complete deciphering.

[TruthBringer]

How misunderstood the Ancient Mayan geniuses have been for more than 1,250 years. Their encoded pictures have finally come to life again, telling the story of their secret science, of a very high order, which explains how the Sun affects life on Earth.

The Ancient Mayans knew that the Sun affected fertility, that its rays filled some with laughter and others with woe, so with reverence they named many of their children according to their birthdate during an astrological cycle. They knew, too, that much of the surface of the World had been re-created four times before and that each period had ended in catastrophic destruction, which they blamed on the Sun.

Some of the Ancient Mayan's tablets describe the cataclysmic sinking of a large land mass (which many believe is Atlantis). They describe an increase in solar radiation which led to the overheating of the landmass, causing the expansion of underground gases to explode and bubble to the surface, and finally for the continent to sink beneath the ocean.

[charles_r51]

the next great question is going to be -why?

if science today has so much information available to it, why have they refused to really seek answers to questions being raised about the past, and the unknown or un-undestood, and how it could help us today?

the purpose of learning is to understand what is happening, but for those who have the ability, it is financial gain for a relatively few which is the guiding force behind all searches for knowledge. there are explanations for everything, but since the search is always about what i will earn monetarily, the searchers only go for what will increase their incomes, not to help prepare for what is coming.

it is unfortunate, but so much has been lost, at the expense of greater knowledge and understanding, that what is coming is not being prepared for but by a relatively few individuals. those who should be leading us toward a greater understanding, and how it is to be prepared for, as well as getting the people ready for the coming changes, are doing the same thing as they have been doing in the past- ignoring the truth and pushing their ignorance on everyone so that they will be able to maintain control after the changes. fortunately, that control will be the very cause of their downfall. they will say they must be saved from the disasterous events because they are going to pick up the reins of leadership once again, but will find that leadership is not what will be needed, but ideas. and since they will lack those most of all, the new conditiions will be dealt with by the very few who know how to regain their positions of trust, not their ability to lead. few leaders will be trusted, and those who can be trusted to bring things back together, will be those who were not previously thought of as leaders, but as free-thinkers whose ideas were rarely allowed to come to fruition without some small group could benefit financially and keep control over how much anyone is allowed to have, and how much is to be learned. ignorance is the largest tool used, and is the bane of those in powerful positions of public trust, and will be the causae of their downfall.

[TruthBringer]

charles_r51;592743 wrote: the next great question is going to be -why?

if science today has so much information available to it, why have they refused to really seek answers to questions being raised about the past, and the unknown or un-undestood, and how it could help us today?

the purpose of learning is to understand what is happening, but for those who have the ability, it is financial gain for a relatively few which is the guiding force behind all searches for knowledge. there are explanations for everything, but since the search is always about what i will earn monetarily, the searchers only go for what will increase their incomes, not to help prepare for what is coming.

it is unfortunate, but so much has been lost, at the expense of greater knowledge and understanding, that what is coming is not being prepared for but by a relatively few individuals. those who should be leading us toward a greater understanding, and how it is to be prepared for, as well as getting the people ready for the coming changes, are doing the same thing as they have been doing in the past- ignoring the truth and pushing their ignorance on everyone so that they will be able to maintain control after the changes. fortunately, that control will be the very cause of their downfall. they will say they must be saved from the disasterous events because they are going to pick up the reins of leadership once again, but will find that leadership is not what will be needed, but ideas. and since they will lack those most of all, the new conditiions will be dealt with by the very few who know how to regain their positions of trust, not their ability to lead. few leaders will be trusted, and those who can be trusted to bring things back together, will be those who were not previously thought of as leaders, but as free-thinkers whose ideas were rarely allowed to come to fruition without some small group could benefit financially and keep control over how much anyone is allowed to have, and how much is to be learned. ignorance is the largest tool used, and is the bane of those in powerful positions of public trust, and will be the causae of their downfall.


Well put.

[TruthBringer]

Most all of the Ancient Mayan's architecture, jewellery, paintings and carvings all contain the same message: of the Sun, fertility, and the AfterLife.

The Ancient Mayans uderstood that the Sun was causing infertility at a certain point in their history and that it was affecting their females and causing a higher incidence of infant mortality. The reduction of solar radiation led fo a reduction in female fertility hormones, which in turn led to an increase in solar-inspired genetic mutations that manifested later as birth defects. The disruptive solar radiation was responsible not only for infertility but also for miscarriage, congenital disease and deformity. The Ancient Mayans were aware of the fact that the Sun was killing them slowly by causing a fall in fertility levels.

To back this fact up, carvings were later found in parts of the Mexican city of Monte Alban, which depicted mutant babies.

One of the symptoms of this caused a disease for the Ancient Mayans which is known today as Sprengel's deformity, which causes things like a congenitally high right scapula, spina bifida and scoliosis. Ionising radiations, which increase at the time of a Sunspot minimum, are capable of causing such mutations in developing foetuses.

[TruthBringer]

So the Ancient Mayans were aware of many things relating to the Sun. They were aware of how the Sun causes Astrology, how the Sun controls biorhythms, how the Sun affects fertility, and how the Sun causes catastrophic cycles and periodic global destruction.

Modern science has only recently caught up with the knowledge of the Ancient Mayans:



1. In 1986 Astrogenetics explained how the Sun determined personality through genetic mutations at the moment of conception. Mutations correlated with astrological belief, showing that the Sun causes personality differentiation on a monthly and yearly basis, corresponding with Western Sun-sign Astrology in the short term (monthly) and Chinese Astrology over the long term (12-year cycle).

At the same time, mechanisms of biorhythms, homesickness and navigation by lesser species were all shown to be hormone-driven by variations in solar radiation.

2. In 1989 calculation of the duration of the Sunspot cycle revealed that Sunspots and solar magnetic reversals periodically bring catastrophic destruction to the Earth.

3. In 1989 the Astrogenetic Theory advanced again with the discovery that the Sun's radiation correlates with the monthly manufacture of the follicle-stimulating hormones in females, and in so doing regulates the menstrual cycle and fertility patterns in females. This causes the rise and fall of civilisations on the Earth.



In 1993 the first volume of The Amazing Lid of Palenque revealed that Lord Pacal, leader of the Ancient Mayans, taught this science to his people more than 1,250 years ago in the jungles of Mexico.

[TruthBringer]

The Ancient Mayans have forewarned us of what will come again in the year Katun Ahau 13 (around 2012). This is confirmed by the Book of Chilam Balam of Chumayel:

"Unattainable is the bread of the Katun in 13 AHAU (famine). The Sun shall be eclipsed. Double is the charge of the Katun: men without offspring, chiefs without successors (infertility). For five days the Sun shall be eclipsed (pole-shift), then it shall be seen again. This is the charge of Katun 13 Ahau.

[TruthBringer]

More than a thousand years ago, in the jungles of Central America, the Ancient Mayans believed that the Earth had been destroyed on four previous occasions; now we know why, and how.

The Ancient Mayans believed that the Sun affects fertility and the rise and fall of civilisations; now we know how.

The Ancient Mayans believed in Astrology, that the Sun affects character, fate and fortune; now we know that it does.

The Ancient Mayans believed that we are now living in the fifth and final "Age of the Sun", which they say will end in the year 2012.

Perhaps we should start listening to what they have been trying to tell us.

[charles_r51]

astrology, astronomy, psychiatry, psychology, geology, geography. three areas of similarity, some exact, some guesswork. none worth anything if not examined from an ancient point of view.

astrology is a study of how the elements of the solar sysytem impact the individual from birth to death, but its very inexactitude blinds the uninitiated to what it can do for our understanding of each other.

astronomy is an exacting scienctific investigative tool to understanding the universe and how it moves.

psychiatry is an inexact study of individual behaviours filled with guesswork and discovcery of brain activity not fully understood.

psychology is the study of how the mentality works, and fills in a few of the gaps about human nature, but lacks ineaxctitude which could explain even more.

geology is the study of what makes up the strata of the earth, but when it can explain things that others have decided are the only explanation, it is discarded as unrealistic.

geography is the study of what the earth looks like, but ignors what it would have looked like in another era. it has to be, and so it is.

when those who seek for more than what they see on the surface, they will find what they have blinded themselves to.

scientific examination has fast and hard rules, but it is in the flexibible rules where the greatest discoveries will be made. science can become flexible, but in becoming so, it must finally accept those things which have been relegated to the realms of superstition as some earlier attempts to provide a historical explanation of what was, not as something that could never have been.

whether it is mayan, egyptian, chinese, amer-indian, or atlantean, people have always tried to understand the world as it is from their perspective.

those whoi study those past civilizations will have to see as it was seen by them, and not guess based on what they want to see today.

knowledge is universal, ignorance is fundemental. if the knowledge is lacking, the ignorance is maintained.

[TruthBringer]

These scientific predictions originate from the Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Mayans. Both civilizations are said to be descendants of the legendary Atlanteans, and they had very highly-evolved astronomical knowledge. In ancient antiquity, they were able to accurately predict the end of our current civilizations. They knew how and why the next Pole-Shift is going to force us to our knees.

The Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Mayans also had incredibly precise calculations for the orbit of the Earth around the Sun. They are so accurate that they exceed our current values. These calculations were nothing but exact. And this is crucial, because the calculations of the Ancient Eyptians and the Ancient Mayans are totally based on the science of the Earth's relation to the Sun.

[TruthBringer]

We read in the ancient scriptures about the super traumatizing events of almost 12,000 years ago: fire, lightning, hurricanes, tidal waves, volcanic explosions, a black sky, famine, cold, and so on. The poor unfortunate people who experienced these events had to have been so shocked, that it dominated their whole Life. They passed warnings on to their children and great-grandchildren, who in turn passed them on down to the next generations.

And in the center of all this are the stories about the survivors. And these stories contain codes so that their descendants can prepare themselves for this catastrophe of all catastrophes that we will soon be facing.

The conveyance of this knowledge lies for us mainly in the writings of the Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Mayans. In their well-preserved secrets we can find the foreboding numbers that will lead us to the complete unveiling of the previous period of catastrophe, and to their predictions of the next.

[TruthBringer]

The Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Mayans were successful in predicting the coming end of our World as we know it. Their predictions contain a mathematical logic, which reveals an extensive plan leading up to the Apocalypse that will occur sometime within the next 5-6 years on planet Earth, and which will help pave the way for the Age of Peace that begins right after it on December 21st, 2012 AD.

It seems extremely logical to conclude that there is a direct connection between the Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Mayans. And also between Ancient Mexico and Ancient Egypt. The figures and combinations are such that one can discover it automatically. And this also proves that their codes were conveived in such a way that there was almost no option but to discover them!

One will definately be amazed by their knowledge of science, construction, engineering, and their culture. And also to the fact that they were committed to proving that they were able to calculate the next Pole-Shift that we have coming to us.

[TruthBringer]

The Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Mayans adopted the science of the Ancient Atlanteans. And with it they made other combinations with the same numbers. And the discovery of their numbers/codes reveals their secrets. Only because of their codes can a person discover the points of connection between the Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Mayans and present the undeniable proof that they must have had an identical origin.

Many of the Ancient Egyptian and Ancient Mayan rules were worked out in places like "The Double House of Life", which is a temple in Egypt or in other corresponding temples in South America. These ancient schools with their "Holy Secrets" were the basic source of all the knowledge of both civilizations. They relied therefore upon the calculations made by their ancestors in the "Circle of Gold" which was a structure in Aha-Men-Ptah (Atlantis).

These Laws remained with the survivors of the previous catastrophes. It was their decision, and again that of their progency after them, as to whether they would continue to use such a gift and to what end it would be used for.

[charles_r51]

both the egyptian and mayan cultures had abilities to foretell events based on what they could see and calculate mathematically. there were also a select few who could predict events that would occur as ime went forward.

unfortunately, many of those who could foretell events have been classified as mystics, and mental deficients, not because trhey were wrong, but because scientist today deny almost all foretellings of events that have not yet occurred. one of the best known, and least accepted is nostradamus, a french mystic who's ability to foretell is denied by many because he was not specific enough for them.

even those who have been proven correct time after time, are explained as guesswork and re-writing in later times to show how accurate they were.

most skeptics will deny a foretelling, which is found to be correct afterwards, as someone who shouldn't be seen as accurate because it was not specific enough to prevent an act or event before it happened. what they refuse to accept is that it was foretold and could be prevented, but only if you could understand the exact event before it happened. since they can't do that, they deny all such predictions of what is coming, and it will be the cause of great loss of life, not because the warning wasn't given, but because the event will not be understood until after it happens. and that is a great disservice to those who might have tried to understand.

a good example is penn and his co-worker. they deny that the future is foretold because they could not see it's meaning until after the event occurs. that is their fault, not the predictor or, as some call them, soothsayer's role in the scheme of things. they give a warning; it is the individual who must seek to understand it, before it happens. once the people can do this, the events can be avoided and/or alleviated.

the egyptians and mayans hads individuals able to foretell events, as well as mathmatically determine major catastrophic conditions and when they would occur.

it is the individual who must seek the knowledge to comprehend what is being foretold. until that can be accomplished, the events will occur, and in full force.

who will be ready for this whenit comes?

[Jamesblonde]

Does the Bible code say anything aboit me maybe... well you know... um, getting lucky this weekend?

[charles_r51]

Jamesblonde;595226 wrote: Does the Bible code say anything aboit me maybe... well you know... um, getting lucky this weekend?


highly improper for this thread. if you want to believe or disbelieve anything, fine. just don't assume anyone agrees with you. :yh_idea :yh_alien2 :yh_alien

[Jamesblonde]

charles_r51;595438 wrote: highly improper for this thread.


Rubbish, I am in the bible code. You can't disprove that and ergo cannot be in any position to state what is proper or improper by an alleged participant in the said subject.

QED

[koan]

Jamesblonde;595850 wrote: Rubbish, I am in the bible code. You can't disprove that and ergo cannot be in any position to state what is proper or improper by an alleged participant in the said subject.

QED


I knew that was some kind of experiment but they should have shut down the operation after they created you. What other havoc do they have in store for us? :wah:

[Jamesblonde]

koan;595949 wrote: I knew that was some kind of experiment but they should have shut down the operation after they created you. What other havoc do they have in store for us? :wah:


Well I heard rumours of a talking towel that gets high a lot and something to do with exploding meer cats.

[charles_r51]

the question of whether you, or some others, are or are not in the bible code is irrelevant. your comment about whether you were or were not predicted to get "lucky" is not.

the code, if it is really what it is considered by some researchers to be, is a matter for further discussion. if you wish to do so, i would expect it to be in another thread as the topics and discussion here are concerned with another aspect of human history and future results of predicted phenomenon and historical research not considered by others in matters of interpretation.

whether or not the bible code does as some think, is not interpretation of historical records, but is a matter for discussion in a thread of and for itself.

i have read some information about such matters, but am not fully convinced about its validity since it appears to be able to predict actions and events only in hindsight, not foersight. those who want to consider its validity is not my concern, but comments about matters not germain to this thread are. your comment was both in bad taste, and not germain to the matters being discussed herein.

if you wish to discuss the "code" and whether it does as some think, begin another thread with that as the main theme under discussion. you may find others who would be both willing, and knoweldgable about the "code", to give a good deal of information and knowledge for such a discussion.

[koan]

TruthBringer was accused of poor taste in another thread and I gave the same answer: he truly believes what he is saying.

If you choose to believe that James does not think getting lucky is more important than the end of the free world then I believe you are mistaken. I consider his comment to be on topic.

[charles_r51]

koan;596566 wrote: TruthBringer was accused of poor taste in another thread and I gave the same answer: he truly believes what he is saying.

If you choose to believe that James does not think getting lucky is more important than the end of the free world then I believe you are mistaken. I consider his comment to be on topic.


on this, we disagree. i wasn't meaning he was off topic, just that the comment was in poor taste.

as for discussion, the bible code is, and should be, a matter of discussion. i just think it would be more appropriate in its own thread. i would like to read others' comment regarding it. i myself don't think it to be of much validity, but that is my opinion, regadless of what i believe. if there is a discussion of it, it may be interesting to hear from some others who are more versed in the matter.

[zinkyusa]

charles_r51;596606 wrote: on this, we disagree. i wasn't meaning he was off topic, just that the comment was in poor taste.

as for discussion, the bible code is, and should be, a matter of discussion. i just think it would be more appropriate in its own thread. i would like to read others' comment regarding it. i myself don't think it to be of much validity, but that is my opinion, regadless of what i believe. if there is a discussion of it, it may be interesting to hear from some others who are more versed in the matter.


chuck, are you and truthie the same guy?

i bet they are:p

[charles_r51]

zinkyusa;596669 wrote: chuck, are you and truthie the same guy?

i bet they are:p


no! just some our ideas are similar, though not all.

sorry!

[koan]

poor taste?

gosh you haven't got very thick skin for a forum goer. he made a comment... that's it. he didn't personally insult anyone and I believe TB has brought up the Bible Code himself very early in this thread. you just plain didn't like James. Big deal! Crying foul should be saved for more worrisome matters.

[charles_r51]

comments are fine, but i considered his in bad taste, nothing else. as for a thin skin, i have no such thing. i just recognize things for what they are, not what some think it may be. i do not refer to his use of the bible code, but his suggested content of what it contains or predicts. we each have some sense of good and bad uses of all works of a religious nature. i have mine, you have yours, he has his. they need not be the same!

[Jamesblonde]

Ok, I have bad taste. Absolutley shocking in fact. I even wear cowboy boots.

But do I care?

No, stay on topic.

As for the "code" would this be the one written buy the guys who didn't admit that Copernicus was right until 1975?

As far as those guys were concerned the end of the world was something you reached when you sailed in one direction for too long. If you are concerned about the end of the world then I suggest you take your head out of your ass and even more odious and misleading places such as "codes" and "prophesy" and start to take a good look at the world around you.

[charles_r51]

Jamesblonde;598055 wrote: Ok, I have bad taste. Absolutley shocking in fact. I even wear cowboy boots.

But do I care?

No, stay on topic.

As for the "code" would this be the one written buy the guys who didn't admit that Copernicus was right until 1975?

As far as those guys were concerned the end of the world was something you reached when you sailed in one direction for too long. If you are concerned about the end of the world then I suggest you take your head out of your ass and even more odious and misleading places such as "codes" and "prophesy" and start to take a good look at the world around you.


just for your information, the bible code wasn't written by anyone. the code was a result of statistical analysis by jewish statisticians who used various numerical values to see if their was some meanings to certain number characteristics using the numerical value of the hebrew alpbabet. when they found that it appeard there was, they began experimenting with other numbers, to see if those also held true to their first analysis. some of the past events, and historical figures from jewish history, and a number of modern historical events appeared to be foretold in the first five books of thje bible, that is, in the torah, but none has been found in the remaining books as far as i know, though it may. i just have not seen or read about what may be in the other books.

the catholic, and protestant versions contain the first five books, but they were compiled by the hebrews during the time of moses, and he is credited with their authorship, though how he could have written about his own death, is not explained.

[Jamesblonde]

charles_r51;600698 wrote: just for your information, the bible code wasn't written by anyone.


Then it isn't a code.

"In communications, a code is a rule for converting a piece of information (for example, a letter, word, or phrase) into another form or representation, not necessarily of the same type. In communications and information processing, encoding is the process by which information from a source is converted into symbols to be communicated. Decoding is the reverse process, converting these code symbols back into information understandable by a receiver."



the code was a result of statistical analysis by jewish statisticians


Statisticians eh. I am sure that they are so much more qualified in cryptography than a cryptographer.

All statisticians are liars by trade and this reeks of Israeli propoganda.



though how he could have written about his own death, is not explained.


Well it is quite easily explained. When you dismiss the impossible (He couldn't have written it from beyond the grave) then what ever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the solution (He was alive when it was written).

[charles_r51]

Jamesblonde;600700 wrote: Then it isn't a code.

"In communications, a code is a rule for converting a piece of information (for example, a letter, word, or phrase) into another form or representation, not necessarily of the same type. In communications and information processing, encoding is the process by which information from a source is converted into symbols to be communicated. Decoding is the reverse process, converting these code symbols back into information understandable by a receiver."

the bible is NOT a communication, but a group of books, not all of which are of any value since they are not contemporary to the time they describe.

the code, regardless of what you may think, is required to have a KEY, whether a phrase, a number, or even a word, that must be used to unravel it. the bible code has a statistical relationship to what it contains, and it is not a jewish, or israelit book or don't you know about the new testament.? it was not written by anyone, but was a compilation of books as acceptable for inclusion in the new testament in 385 ad at the second council of nicea. it was in the first concil of nicea in 325 ad that jesus was determined to be the son of god, the holy spirit and god, that is, the triune or holy trinity of father, son and holy spirit.

as for the bible code being a code, it may be since the code uses various numerical relationships to show what events have happened in the past. until the code has beenm fully understood, future events are not likely to be foreseen since the numerical representative needed to decipher such future events has not yet been determined.

if you haven't read about, regardless of whether you accept it, you might find it intersting. i have, but still have some reservations as to how it is to be used.





Statisticians eh. I am sure that they are so much more qualified in cryptography than a cryptographer.

All statisticians are liars by trade and this reeks of Israeli propoganda.





Well it is quite easily explained. When you dismiss the impossible (He couldn't have written it from beyond the grave) then what ever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the solution (He was alive when it was written).


to claim moses was alive when he wrote of his own death, denies all the foundations of thje christian faith, that we have only one life, and one death. to foertell our own death is to say moses had the ability to determine who would live, and for how long as well as who would die, and when.

[TruthBringer]

The recovered knowledge provides excellent proof of the advanced science that these ancient civilizations possessed. The Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Mayans were much more developed civilizations than was originally thought possible. Why? Because they knew things like the orbit of the Earth around the Sun, ect. And many times they disguised their knowledge with code numbers.

By taking literally the statements of the Ancient Atlanteans, Egyptians, and Mayans, you can stumble upon a manner of calculation within an orderly system. Their is a similar system behind the pattern of thinking of these ancient giants of mathematics and science. When focusing on it, a magic world of numbers appears, full of unexpected but undeniable and strange similarities.

With the connection of Venus and the periods of the previous two Pole-Shifts one can stumble upon the similarities between the Sothic cycle of Ancient Egypt and the Ancient Mayan's numbers.

The correlation between the Ancient Mayan super-numbers and the Ancient Egyptian Sothic numbers is extensive. Several Ancient Mayan numbers are multiple of Ancient Egyptian Sothic numbers multiplied by code numbers.

The Ancient Mayan and the Ancient Egyptian way of calculation are both supported, undeniably, by the same series of numbers. For this reason it can be said that the Ancient Mayans and the Ancient Egyptians have the same origin, in this case, Aha-Men-Ptah/Atlantis.

[TruthBringer]

We should take the Ancient Egyptian and Ancient Mayan warnings about the coming Pole-Shift very seriously because they were capable of making extremeley accurate predictions about planetary orbits and the past two disasters.

Our ancestors warned us about the coming Pole-Shift through their coded messages. They knew exactly which kinds of mechanisms were hiding behind the biggest atmospheric and Earth changes. With unmatched accuracy they were able to follow and depict the Zodiac, and they even calculated the exact dates of the previous two Pole-Shifts.

Many of the riddles that puzzle many astronomers, geologists, physicians and others can be solved in one go by the catastrophe theories of the Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Mayans. They knew that when a beam of lightning hits a magnet, its poles reverse. Beams of lightning from the Sun, or in more scientific terms, Sunstorms, can also cause this phenomenon on the Earth if they are big enough and strong enough, like the ones we will soon be facing.

After all, the Earth is one big magnet. The moment the ionized particles from the Sunstorm force their way into the poles, a gigantic short-circuit will occur. Just as with a normal magnet, the magnetic North Pole will change places with the magnetic South Pole. The Earth will start turning around the other way with catastrophic consequences for mankind. Cooled down magma with a reversed polarization already found by geologists proves this abundantly.

It is for this reason that the Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Mayans payed so much attention to this phenomenon. They knew that when the Earth would short circuit again, in our current days, that the core of the Earth would reverse all at once. At the same time super earthquakes would shake the entire Earth.

Folks...this is what our planet will soon be enduring.

[charles_r51]

numbers are such wonderful little creatures. you can add, subtract multiply and divide, and nothing else. no matter what we do with numbers, these are the only four actions we can take.

regardless of how we use numbers, no matter what we use numbers to reprsent, it will always have but four functions.

[Jamesblonde]

charles_r51;600707 wrote: to claim moses was alive when he wrote of his own death, denies all the foundations of thje christian faith, that we have only one life, and one death. to foertell our own death is to say moses had the ability to determine who would live, and for how long as well as who would die, and when.


Yep, so?

[charles_r51]

just another tidbit of religious mis-information when determining the meaning of a phrase that some use as an excuse, rather than as a means of determining why a phrase is written as it is.

a single word can, and often will, change how something is to be interpreted. the death of moses is one of those which can be interpreted in several ways, though most biblical scholars are agreed that someone other than moses finished the last book of the torah, that is deutoronomy. who that person was is in dispute, though some think it may have been joshua since he became the leader of the israelites at the death of moses.

[Jamesblonde]

charles_r51;601767 wrote: just another tidbit of religious mis-information when determining the meaning of a phrase that some use as an excuse, rather than as a means of determining why a phrase is written as it is.

a single word can, and often will, change how something is to be interpreted. the death of moses is one of those which can be interpreted in several ways, though most biblical scholars are agreed that someone other than moses finished the last book of the torah, that is deutoronomy. who that person was is in dispute, though some think it may have been joshua since he became the leader of the israelites at the death of moses.


So like the 500 words the Hebrews have for "There's sand in my sandal" or "Why do people hate us so much?"

[charles_r51]

Jamesblonde;603841 wrote: So like the 500 words the Hebrews have for "There's sand in my sandal" or "Why do people hate us so much?"


yes, and no. reading the original hebrew text of the first five books is consistant throughout their history. each synogague has a copy of the torah in scroll form just as it was written in the past. it is a copy, of course, but the copy is copied from the same text that was first written. each and every stroke is carefully set down and, unlike most later writings, must be perfectly done. a single error anywhere in the copy causes the entire copy to be destroyed since it is not exact. while the number of copies is extremely large numerically, a letter by letter comparison will find no errors in any of the accepted copies and that they are exactly identical to each other. one copy may take years to do, but there are a large number of places where the copies are done. and all are done by hand by specialists. though modern language will often change, hebrew is a language which remains unchanged.

the number of ways a phrase may be spoken may vary, but if it's in hebrew, there is no change. yiddish, the commoner's hebrew does have other words not found in hebrew, but that is because it derives itself from hebrew but is not the true hebrew language, but a derivitive much like slang is used in english where different words can replace older, more conventional words. as such, it adds words and phrases which, depending on where you are, may have different meanings for different people.

in english there may be several hundred different phrases used to say the same thing. both time and meaning will change, even as locations change.

for example, a phrase used on the east coast may be like -sky up- and on the west coast -to roll away- each mean to take a trip. to use either phrase in the other location would make each saying totally without meaning to others, but if used in their original locale, it would mean to go somewhere.

so yes, the use of words to say something may often have several ways of being said, and all would mean the same thing.

but where the torah is written, because of it's importance to the hebrew descendants, it will always be word for word from copy to copy.

[Jamesblonde]

Great, so we only need a 2000 year old Aramaic speaker from the right 'hood to make sense of it.

[charles_r51]

Jamesblonde;604345 wrote: Great, so we only need a 2000 year old Aramaic speaker from the right 'hood to make sense of it.


aramaic is still readable by many scholars who research biblical events and the supporting, and non-supporting, archeology currently being investigated, as well as those sites which have already been investigated. as far as languages go in that region, the four that were used during the life of, and before and after the life of jesus, latin greek, hebrew and aramaic were the spoken languages of the time. hebrew was spoken by the leaders and in the temple itself. aramaaic was the common language spoken by most jews and non-jews who lived in palestine of the time. greek was the language used by most tradesmen who traveled throughout the region and was the common language of most merchants dealing with the caravans that traveled throughout the roman empire. latin was the language of all roman soldiers, and all roman travellers.

if you have ever seen a crucifix, you will note the small placaed attached to the cross above the head of jesus. it is representative of the sign that the romans attached to the cross. it was written in four languages and is often written as INRI but the letters represent the four languages it was written in. latin, greek, hebrew and aramaic. the proper name for it is called the tetragrammation, that is the four languages of the region at the time.

if anyone wants to read any of the earliest texts about christainity and the history of the christian movement, being able to read and understand these four languages is a requirement. though most writings from the earlest days were from later translations of greek writings, the ability to read is required if one wants to read non-religious writings of the day as well as many religious texts which have been discredited due to the material in them. some of these other works are the kabballah, the dead sea scrolls, and many other early texts of christian writings not considered worthy of inclusion into the canonical writings which are in the current catholic, and non-catholic bibles.

i have read most of them, but since idon't read any of the four languages of the day, i read the english translations available in almost any bookstore. you ,may find them of some interest especially if you are interested in the early history of christianity and what the early christains were concerned with regardless of whether they are of value as religious teaching goes. i would also note that during the early centuries of the christian era, many groups were slaughtered for having any other beliefs which the cartholic church did not like. they were given the term heresies, and the church committed mass murder to keep their ideas as the only acceptable ideas to be considered christian.

[TruthBringer]

Deciphering the main meaning of the Ancient Egyptian and Ancient Mayan codes are possible, but only if you decipher these scientific masterpieces together. It's about time we respect these highly developed scientists for their knowledge. Then we can ring the alarm Worldwide and try to help at least part of Humankind to survive. We will either encounter our Armageddon, or sow the seeds of the next civilization coming after us.

[TruthBringer]

The Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Mayans were Sun worshippers. They had every reason for doing this, as the Sun not only gives Life but also brings Death.

The Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Mayans had extremely accurate knowledge regarding the time it takes for the Earth to make a revolution around the Sun. With their incredible accuracy, they had no trouble calculating the time it takes for a revolution of the Sun's magnetic fields.

This is why the warnings of the Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Mayans have to be taken very seriously. The fact that they were aware of these theories is Earthshaking in itself!

Thanks to some of the Ancient Egyptian papyruses that are more than 5,000 years old, we know absolutely that the Ancient Egyptians were capable of calculating extremely difficult mathematical problems. As were the Ancient Mayans.

Just to give one example of what the Ancient Egyptians could do, they were able to calculate the volume and surface area of a half sphere. This problem appears in the Papyrus of Rhind, which can be found in Moscow. Its age is estimated at over 5,000 years, and it was copied from even older documents.

This is just further proof that the Ancient Egyptians knew alot more than many modern scientists are willing to admit.

[TruthBringer]

The Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Mayans knew the magnetic Sunspot cycle theory. This is clear evidence that they could do the job, unconditional proof that they were both of similar origin, and that they had brilliant mathematicians and astronomers that were in many ways far superior to even contemporary scientists.

For both civilizations the magnetic Sunspot cycle was central to their lives. This is not hard to believe when you realize that a giant solar storm, stemming from a culmination of the Sunspot cycle, will soon be switching the polar fields of our planet. The resulting catastrophe will kill billions of people, probably almost all of mankind.

What is very important is that many of our Nuclear plants be completely shut down before the Pole-Shift occurs because of the destruction that will befall them by enormous Earthquakes. If many of the plants are not shut down before this coming catastrophe, it is quite possible that much of the Earth will become a giant radioactive ball.

[TruthBringer]

Just as the Rosetta stone induced the start of Egyptology, the decoding of the Ancient Egyptians and Ancient Mayan codes will cause a revolution in the knowledge of antiquity. It is a crucial link to the existence of our civilization. In a certain way these numbers belong to an esoteric numerology. These are essential numbers, which can be processed to find the basic components. When those are processed in turn, they lead to the same numbers!

The relavent numbers are a metaphor for the pre-calculated Pole-Shift that is very soon going to ravage our whole Earth. They are the intriguing climax of a search into the reasons for the Pole-Shifts, the "falling down of skies", the destruction of land, animals and people.

Brought together in an essential symbolism, an immense complexity of mythology, religion, science and mathematics, is hidden in the ancient's simplicity.

[charles_r51]

the egyptians, mayans, and some of the polynesian islanders all have similar ideas regarding mythological activities of varied deities which pre-date each of them. a few of these myths are still known in areas no longer considered "part of the current world", but living in accordance to traditions established millenia ago. these natives are the few remaining groups who actually were part of a highly evolved humanity over ten thosand years ago. they still live according to ideas and beliefs that were passed down mouth to mouth and are only now being brought into our "modern" world. had they been left to fend for themselves, without any kind of outside interference, todays explorers would have something to really learn from. unfortunately, greed on the part of individuals, corporations, and even governments has destroyed almost all cultures which were considered "backwards" and "ignorant" of "modern ideas" and which had to be brought into the twentieth century.

this cultural destruction will never be repaired or rebuilt. all that would be usable from them has been lost and in the final analysis, humanity will suffer greatly due to not having the means of survival those cultures could have provided. while humanity will not regress to caveman-like status, nor all knowledge be lost, the basic survival methods they could have provided will only bring about additional suffering which could have been averted.

there are, though, still means and people who will provide what is needed for mankind to once again flourish, but it will take more than a few years to rebuild the world, but the mistakes that were, are and will be made shall become the basic building blocks upon which humanity will once more flourish.

the numbers of the dead will never be known, but if the survivors number anything more than one in ten, it will be because someone will come forth and do his utmost to keep things going in spite of all the destruction.

let us hope that there are some who will listen to the warnings before the destruction begins. if not, even fewer will survive, and the rebound will be that much more difficult to bring about.

[Jamesblonde]

TruthBringer;605130 wrote: Deciphering the main meaning of the Ancient Egyptian and Ancient Mayan codes are possible, but only if you decipher these scientific masterpieces together. It's about time we respect these highly developed scientists for their knowledge. Then we can ring the alarm Worldwide and try to help at least part of Humankind to survive. We will either encounter our Armageddon, or sow the seeds of the next civilization coming after us.


Hear Hear. I agree with that.

[charles_r51]

Jamesblonde;605944 wrote: Hear Hear. I agree with that.


agreeing is normal, but do you fully comprehend what is going to happen? therein lay the problem. few people can even understand, let alone fully comprehend, what is coming in a few short years. the current political landscape will not even survive due to the physical changes which will occur as a result of the changing of the magnetic field. if you think it isn't going to happen, or even just think it may and all you need to be is in a safe location, understand this: theree will be NO SAFE PLACES anywhere on this planet once the poles reverse and the physical changes to the planet begin. the only safe place will be above it, that is in the air and not landing for many weeks and months due to the continual changes which will last for weeks, months and in some areas, years. there will be no one able to survive if they are caught in the instability and decide to remain in what some think are safe havens they have constructed for themselves. only through quick thinking, and rapid movement from locale to locale will some survive. timing will be paramount to all actions that must be taken, and very few will be wise enough to understand, comprehend, and act swiftly enough to avoid much of the disasters that will occur.

the number of survivors is limited, and the rest will be caught and die as a result of there own stupidity.

[TruthBringer]

The omnipresence of the symbolic numbers used by the Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Mayans is no coincidence. It underlines a strange but understandable similarity. The numbers are the synthesis of a super-civilization (Atlantis) that was confronted with the end of its time - calculated by mathematical "gods" who cleverly incorporated their mythology and knowledge into one big idea which became a source of disturbingly exact scientific knowledge.

Research indicates that the Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Mayans both had the knowledge of the Ancient Atlanteans. They also were aware of the two points in a year where day and night are equal. This can be proven because several of their temples were built at the point where the Sun rose above horizon at the beginning of the Spring.

The Ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Mayans also knew that it takes 72 years before the Sun shifts one degree over the ecliptic. This is a remarkably precise calculation according to the astronomers of today. Only science of a mathematically and astronomically high standard can produce such accuracy. The precession cycle is a majestic machine of extraordinary complexity. And yet these ancients were able to figure it out.