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This is due to the end of the Gov't. subsidy on biofuels. Expect your fuel to go up by about 1 1/2 pence per litre.

Hereabouts it's £1.17p/litre already. On the motorway, it's £1.25/litre (prices for 95RON unleaded).

Bill Sikes;1297396 wrote: This is due to the end of the Gov't. subsidy on biofuels. Expect your fuel to go up by about 1 1/2 pence per litre.

Hereabouts it's £1.17p/litre already. On the motorway, it's £1.25/litre (prices for 95RON unleaded).


That new 1 litre car I've been promising myself is getting more and more attractive.

gmc;1297406 wrote: That new 1 litre car I've been promising myself is getting more and more attractive.


I'm thinking of buying a diesel Vectra (49MPG "combined", 0-60 in about 8 1/2), or something similar that's got enough "go" and economy. I want around 50MPG "combined", but it'd be nice if it was quick enough too, when needed. The 1.7 Corsa diesel does 59MPG combined, 0-60 in 9.3.

Roll on electric cars (as long as they've got the necessary "go").

Bill Sikes;1297413 wrote: I'm thinking of buying a diesel Vectra (49MPG "combined", 0-60 in about 8 1/2), or something similar that's got enough "go" and economy. I want around 50MPG "combined", but it'd be nice if it was quick enough too, when needed. The 1.7 Corsa diesel does 59MPG combined, 0-60 in 9.3.

Roll on electric cars (as long as they've got the necessary "go").


Unless you are going 35,000-40,000 miles a year the economics don;t stack up. Diesels are more expensive to buy, even a 108 petrol vectra will do over 40 to the gallon and a coup[le of thousand buys a awful lot of petrol. I prefer diesel cars to drive apart from anything else. 60mpg will do me fine-my wife also has a car but for work it's just me so sod the image I'll get the most economical small car I can find.;

A quick look at Autotrader (Used VAUXHALL VECTRA Car for Sale - Auto Trader UK) shows a 1.9 CDTi 16V Breeze [150] (48MPG combined) at £4,000, and a 1.8i Breeze (petrol) (39MPG combined) at £4,095. Not much cost difference to but at this end of the market.

Bill Sikes;1297396 wrote: This is due to the end of the Gov't. subsidy on biofuels. Expect your fuel to go up by about 1 1/2 pence per litre.

Hereabouts it's £1.17p/litre already. On the motorway, it's £1.25/litre (prices for 95RON unleaded).


that is really high, ours never did go down and it will rise again when the nice weather stays.:-5

1.01 pr. litre

Odie;1297441 wrote: 1.01 pr. litre


Crumbs, I thought it was as cheap in Canada as it is in the USA!

Unless you mean it's about £0.60p/litre.....

Bill Sikes;1297449 wrote: Crumbs, I thought it was as cheap in Canada as it is in the USA!

Unless you mean it's about £0.60p/litre.....


1.01 Canadian money....pr/litre

and that' still way to high Bill, it had gotten down to .86 a year ago.

Odie;1297441 wrote: that is really high, ours never did go down and it will rise again when the nice weather stays.:-5

1.01 pr. litre


The British figure Bill's talking about is currently 46% higher than that.

You're really paying US$ 3.57 a US gallon at the moment? I wonder what it goes for in the US then.

Bill Sikes;1297436 wrote: A quick look at Autotrader (Used VAUXHALL VECTRA Car for Sale - Auto Trader UK) shows a 1.9 CDTi 16V Breeze [150] (48MPG combined) at £4,000, and a 1.8i Breeze (petrol) (39MPG combined) at £4,095. Not much cost difference to but at this end of the market.


Year, mileage?

gmc;1297499 wrote: Year, mileage?


Both 2005 (05). Diesel 66,400. 1.8 petrol 53,000. There's also a 1.8 petrol 2005 (54), 67,000 miles for £4,195. Interesting.

Bill Sikes;1297513 wrote: Both 2005 (05). Diesel 66,400. 1.8 petrol 53,000. There's also a 1.8 petrol 2005 (54), 67,000 miles for £4,195. Interesting.


From bitter experience it's not the engine mileage that's a problem it's the other components that cost a fortune to fix. I've had several cars beyond 100,000. My present car-nissan almera owned from nearly new does, 45mpg has 134,000 on it, new discs at 100,00 new exhaust at 100,000 -needs another because my mileage has dropped considerably and it's rusted away, still on the original clutch it's going to cast about £800 for another year. I fancy a newer one but I would lose more than that in depreciation in the first year. either one of those could easily land you with similar bills depending how they've been driven.

Having fun looking though. I like cars just but hate paying for them.

spot;1297470 wrote: The British figure Bill's talking about is currently 46% higher than that.

You're really paying US$ 3.57 a US gallon at the moment? I wonder what it goes for in the US then.


It fluctuates from one State to another in the US, Spot.

USA and Canada Current Average Gas Prices By City/State/Province - GasBuddy.com

Odie;1297457 wrote: 1.01 Canadian money....pr/litre

and that' still way to high Bill, it had gotten down to .86 a year ago.


Mustang's site does graphs.

This is Toronto prices over the last five years. It's evidently been worse.

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spot;1297629 wrote: Mustang's site does graphs.

This is Toronto prices over the last five years. It's evidently been worse.


It's been up and down for years now, it will never stabilize, when summer hits, you will see it rise to around 1.45.

just paid 1.01 last week and that's for regular unleaded.

its another government grab, same as smokes, cat licenses and tons more things here, you even need a license once a year to own an indoor cat.:rolleyes:

When VAT went down last year it didn't go down on petrol, but when it went up in January another 2p a liter went on again. It will go up again in April. Talk on the radio yesterday- a liter cost 30p for the producer, 10p for the vender--the rest is tax. That is a tax rate of 200%. The UK has the cheapest diesel in Europe till you add on the tax, then it is the most expensive. What happened to all the unrest when it was 80p a liter and there were threats of massive strikes etc. We are so submissive here it's ridiculous...........:mad:

FUBAR;1297653 wrote: We are so submissive here


Are you visiting the UK, then?

FUBAR;1297653 wrote: When VAT went down last year it didn't go down on petrol, but when it went up in January another 2p a liter went on again. It will go up again in April. Talk on the radio yesterday- a liter cost 30p for the producer, 10p for the vender--the rest is tax. That is a tax rate of 200%. The UK has the cheapest diesel in Europe till you add on the tax, then it is the most expensive. What happened to all the unrest when it was 80p a liter and there were threats of massive strikes etc. We are so submissive here it's ridiculous...........:mad:


Law abiding rather than submissive and slow to anger. We have a very long tradition of dissent and rebellion but usually the establishment give way enough to ease the pressure cooker of discontent. I would like to think if we get another government with less than 30% of the votes people will start getting really angry. Indirect taxation like fuel duty is never a fair way of collecting taxes and always hits the lowest incomes the most.

Bill Sikes;1297659 wrote: Are you visiting the UK, then?


Live here, over 20 years now. Must disagree, it is more submissive to authority than law abiding. Muttering into your collar or spouting out in a pub doesn't count, people here bitch and moan but still do nothing. But then politicians only bother with the crowds when they want electing after that they couldn't care less.