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Old 01-05-2007, 06:11 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Unfortunately, history shows that the real heroes are the ones who ignore convention and public outcry and stay the course. Churchill, Lincoln, Roosevelt ..... The message: Plow on in the face of discontent and you will be rewarded in the final rinse.
Erm, I think quite a lot of Wermacht generals were quite adamant about retreating from the Soviet Union in 1942, Herr Hitler decided to carry on regardless, and the rest is erm, history. Not that there is a parallel in terms of the leaders, just that principal, in war its as at least as important to know when to run away as it is to attack, no?
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I'm not claiming he's right, I'm only trying to see it from his point of view. His whole family has a realy sense of history, and their influence on it. I don't think he is more than mildly concerned about the short-term.
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Erm, I think quite a lot of Wermacht generals were quite adamant about retreating from the Soviet Union in 1942, Herr Hitler decided to carry on regardless, and the rest is erm, history. Not that there is a parallel in terms of the leaders, just that principal, in war its as at least as important to know when to run away as it is to attack, no?
That's the 'learn from history' deal that always seems to escape these guys. They only see what the heroes did. They fail to notice that the big losers do the same thing.
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What's that saying about history being repeated as farce? Only this time it's not that funny is it?
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What's that saying about history being repeated as farce? Only this time it's not that funny is it?
With the news I just posted in another thread, I'm worried.
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With the news I just posted in another thread, I'm worried.
I missed that, I hope I just didn't pull a faux pas.
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I missed that, I hope I just didn't pull a faux pas.
Sorry, I don't speak Spanish.
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I like Spanish - cannot speak it I hasten to add but I love the sound of it being spoken. I prefer Central/South American Spanish though - none of that lisping thing. I read somewhere that the King had a lisp and that his subjects were encouraged to speak in a similar manner so as not to embarrass him. Now that could be a lot of old rot but there you are.

Personally I put it down to my enjoyment of the Cisco Kid when I was a little fellow.
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