muslim fanatics hurl hate abuse at our soldiers the AAgrumpy column

[Peter Lake]

Originally Posted by pantoandy

and for my column i recived this

You have received an infraction at ForumGarden
Dear pantoandy,



__________________

Having the right to an opinion does not make your opinion right.

AAG
it appears that even freedom of speech is gagged on the FG
and oscar didnt like what i wrote so she reported me for an infraction.
yet oscar is quoted as saying if she knew of the venue she would have joined them i replied if you support muslim terrorists you are also a traitor to the crown.
i stick with my original statement and i do not retract my statement that the protesting fanatics are scum they are and i will not retract my statement that they are not british subjects but dangerous foreign terrorists which we let in to our country and keep just for them to plot against us and make bombs killing innocent civilians which is treason yet we still allow them to go about their daily lives spouting their jihad rubbish and that england will be an islamic state and the best bit is they know who they are !!!
why arent they being deported at gatwick or swinging on a rope in pentonville ?
if our troops are no better than hitler they are the equviliant of lord haw haw the best thing was he was hung.
when will you see these dangerous terrorists for what they are after they,ve committed another 911 in london by flying a plane simultaniously into the houses of parliment and number 10 or blown up a shopping mall like harrods or selfridges
DONT SAY IT COULDNT HAPPEN IT COULD!!!by gagging the truth like here on the FG lets you see and hear only what they want you to see and hear

PERSONALLY YOU CAN STICK YOUR INFRACTION UP YOUR JUMPER AND IF THIS GETS ME ANOTHER INFRACTON STICK THAT ONE UP THERE TOO
as to my being a BNP supporter i am and hope they get in and sort this countries mess out.
OH BY THE WAY ITS CALLED FREEDOM OF SPEECH

I can assure you that Oscar is not even here to make a complaint about you. She left this house at 6 am this morning and will not be back for two days. What time did you recieve your infraction?
In my knowledge Oscar has never complained about a post even one's directed at her that were far worse. She just is not that kind of person. Infact the more insulting they are, the more she will laugh. I can ask her when she phones me but I know her, it's just not something she would do. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and Oscar is the first to stand by that. She would not report you because you have a different opinion. She would punch you not report you if she was offended!
Thanks, Pete

[gmc]

Originally Posted by pantoandy

and for my column i recived this

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Dear pantoandy,

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Original Post:
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Originally Posted by oscar View Post
The fact remains that the muslims in question are British citizens there-fore they have a right to protest and stage a demo providing no-one is assaulted. That is the law. Legally, they were doing nothing wrong. It is no different to me protesting against the thirs run-way or fox hunting.

The returning soldiers are not hero's, don't make that mistake. They volunteered and entered an illegal war based on lie's and corruption.
I wish i had known the venue as i would have been with them.
these scum will never be british citizens they are the enemy within terrorists
traitors and as i said backstabbers to the country that took them in fed them clothed them and gave them money and shelter .
dont you dare insult the indigious british with this clap trap
at the end of the day they have commited treason and should be deported
or prefably hung
All the best,
ForumGarden
__________________

Having the right to an opinion does not make your opinion right.

AAG
it appears that even freedom of speech is gagged on the FG
and oscar didnt like what i wrote so she reported me for an infraction.
yet oscar is quoted as saying if she knew of the venue she would have joined them i replied if you support muslim terrorists you are also a traitor to the crown.
i stick with my original statement and i do not retract my statement that the protesting fanatics are scum they are and i will not retract my statement that they are not british subjects but dangerous foreign terrorists which we let in to our country and keep just for them to plot against us and make bombs killing innocent civilians which is treason yet we still allow them to go about their daily lives spouting their jihad rubbish and that england will be an islamic state and the best bit is they know who they are !!!
why arent they being deported at gatwick or swinging on a rope in pentonville ?
if our troops are no better than hitler they are the equviliant of lord haw haw the best thing was he was hung.
when will you see these dangerous terrorists for what they are after they,ve committed another 911 in london by flying a plane simultaniously into the houses of parliment and number 10 or blown up a shopping mall like harrods or selfridges
DONT SAY IT COULDNT HAPPEN IT COULD!!!by gagging the truth like here on the FG lets you see and hear only what they want you to see and hear

PERSONALLY YOU CAN STICK YOUR INFRACTION UP YOUR JUMPER AND IF THIS GETS ME ANOTHER INFRACTON STICK THAT ONE UP THERE TOO
as to my being a BNP supporter i am and hope they get in and sort this countries mess out.
OH BY THE WAY ITS CALLED FREEDOM OF SPEECH

You deliberately post to provoke a reaction. Your views are offensive to some but I suspect whoever called for the infraction isn't any of those who respond to your posts. It would be a pity if you were silenced and I would appeal to the moderators not to do so-if they are thinking of it. discussion forums are no fun if everybody shares the same opinion or is too polite to disagree or is daft enough to think that disagreement with a point of view is a personal attack. Rant as much as you like. If I call you a pillock it's not personal I am merely stating my disagreement in the robust manner beloved in british political discussion. i assure you if you respond in similar vein I will not lose my self esteem.

I'd never have guessed you were a BNP supporter as you don't quite match the image of a half witted, semi literate neanderthal I would expect.

Joking aside as a tolerant individual not given to extremes of passion I find myself wanting to beat the **** out if these demonstrators. Yes they have a right to protest but this I think was intended to provoke and to be offensive. If you do something to get a reaction you can hardly complain when you get one. For all they live in a society that tolerates their beliefs they also live in the midst of one of the most violent nations on the planet. we're not exactly a nation of pacifists. It would be a pity if their attempt to provoke succeeds as most likely the innocent will be as much a target as anyone else.

I feel the same way about sharia law in the UK as I do about canon law. No way would I tolerate it. Like my forefathers I would probably pick up a weapon if all else failed.

[BTS]

Originally Posted by gmc

I think they were drag hunting which is not illegal, but the hunt saboteurs follow to make sure they don't go after foxes. but I would have to check.




They have the same linguistic root.






A more interesting question is why have so many americans been taught to denigrate the very principles their nation was supposedly founded on. Give me liberty or give me death is the perennial call to arms cry of the liberal in defence of individual freedom. When someone criticising the actions of his government can be dismissed as a traitorous wishy washy liberal something is perhaps wrong. Liberals and those of a liberal disposition will inherit the earth. sooner or later they prevail

Liberalism, the word is a derivation in some form of the word “liberty”. Liberty is synonymous with freedom, which should include freedom of thought or belief. Today’s liberals don’t think for themselves, and therefore shouldn’t even be allowed to call themselves liberals, because they are bound by the mob mentality. They’re imprisoned by the confines of popularity, believing that if they are in the minority, they’re wrong. Folks, that’s a disease.

[abbey]

Originally Posted by gmc

You deliberately post to provoke a reaction. Your views are offensive to some but I suspect whoever called for the infraction isn't any of those who respond to your posts. It would be a pity if you were silenced and I would appeal to the moderators not to do so-if they are thinking of it. discussion forums are no fun if everybody shares the same opinion or is too polite to disagree or is daft enough to think that disagreement with a point of view is a personal attack. Rant as much as you like. If I call you a pillock it's not personal I am merely stating my disagreement in the robust manner beloved in british political discussion. i assure you if you respond in similar vein I will not lose my self esteem.

I'd never have guessed you were a BNP supporter as you don't quite match the image of a half witted, semi literate neanderthal I would expect.
at the end of the day they have commited treason and should be deported
or prefably hung
Joking aside as a tolerant individual not given to extremes of passion I find myself wanting to beat the **** out if these demonstrators. Yes they have a right to protest but this I think was intended to provoke and to be offensive. If you do something to get a reaction you can hardly complain when you get one. For all they live in a society that tolerates their beliefs they also live in the midst of one of the most violent nations on the planet. we're not exactly a nation of pacifists. It would be a pity if their attempt to provoke succeeds as most likely the innocent will be as much a target as anyone else.

I feel the same way about sharia law in the UK as I do about canon law. No way would I tolerate it. Like my forefathers I would probably pick up a weapon if all else failed.

FG will not tolerate this statement...

At the end of the day they have commited treason and should be deported
or prefably hung

[Bryn Mawr]

Originally Posted by pantoandy

these scum will never be british citizens they are the enemy within terrorists
traitors and as i said backstabbers to the country that took them in fed them clothed them and gave them money and shelter .
dont you dare insult the indigious british with this clap trap
at the end of the day they have commited treason and should be deported
or prefably hung

Might I ask who you are referring to as the indigenous British? The ex Vikings who left France to better themselves in 1066 or the Vikings who preceded them in the eighth century when thing got rough in Scandinavia or the Germans who took advantage of the power vacuum in the fifth century to extend their territories or the Italians who felt they were better than anyone in the first century or the Kelts who knew a good thing when they saw one a thousand year before that or the Picts who were being pushed out of Europe a thousand years before that or the ..........

[gmc]

Originally Posted by abbey

FG will not tolerate this statement...

Yet they tolerate calls for the torture and murder of people without trial judged to be criminals or the bombing of iran back to the stone age? Calls for the beating and incarceration of children guilty of some demeanour because after all they need to be punished.

I don't particularly like panto andy's sentiments either. I think he's a bit of a pillock to be honest. But it's nice to be talking to a british poster where you can say something like that without them coming over all precious because you disagree with them. I think it more constructive to argue with him about it. Who knows he might think about some of the sillier things he comes out with and change his mind. He has as much right to free speech as the demonstrators.

It is discussion forum after all and the opinion panto andy expresses is shared by many whether we like it or not. Pretending it isn't gets us nowhere. If these kind of demonstrations become common place opinions will harden in this country towards muslims. I suspect also that the next time there is parade for troops returning home the number turning out to support them will increase and there will be some spoiling for a fight if muslim extremists turn up to protest. It is something we need to talk about.

posted by BTS

Liberalism, the word is a derivation in some form of the word “liberty”. Liberty is synonymous with freedom, which should include freedom of thought or belief. Today’s liberals don’t think for themselves, and therefore shouldn’t even be allowed to call themselves liberals, because they are bound by the mob mentality. They’re imprisoned by the confines of popularity, believing that if they are in the minority, they’re wrong. Folks, that’s a disease.

I'd agree with you there. Liberals are the majority in any democratic society though most don't appreciate they share many of the more important ideals with an ideology they have been brainwashed in to believing is flawed and undemocratic. I'm fairly sure we're not going to agree over this but since we both live in societies where liberal attitudes are the norm we can each respect the other freely expressed opinion.

[abbey]

Panto Andy, walks a very thin line with some of his posts, most of his posts are very thinly veiled.
This post held no guise.

these scum will never be british citizens they are the enemy within terrorists
traitors and as i said backstabbers to the country that took them in fed them clothed them and gave them money and shelter .
dont you dare insult the indigious british with this clap trap
at the end of the day they have commited treason and should be deported
or prefably hung

[Galbally]

Interesting thread.

I didn't know that someone had thrown a pack of British Rashers at the Islamicists off the top of the shopping centre, I have to say I do find that very amusing for some reason. A very British response, we had loads of Irish pork meat that we had to get rid of a few months ago, we should have sent it to Luton.

I found the comment made by one of the Islamic demonstrators that "luton is a town with a large muslim community" in reference to the fact that the British Army shouldn't therefore march down the Main Street of this British town (presumably because he believes that Luton is not really British any more, but part of the growing Caliphate) very illuminating.

It will be interesting to see whether the militant Islamic groups intend to keep on pressing the buttons of ordinary English people by organizing these provocative demonstrations. My own experience of living in England was that the actual real English people themselves were extraordinarily tolerant, (far more than Irish people over here, we are a much more conservative, homogenous people), but I would imagine that native English and British tolerance has its limits, and given the times that are in it, we may be fast approaching that point.

[pantoandy]

Originally Posted by abbey

Panto Andy, walks a very thin line with some of his posts, most of his posts are very thinly veiled.
This post held no guise.

i would like to deal with a couple of points
firstly i aplogise most unreservedly to peter lake and oscar it appears i was barking up the wrong tree.
secondly abbeys comment as quoted
these scum will never be british citizens they are the enemy within terrorists
traitors and as i said backstabbers to the country that took them in fed them clothed them and gave them money and shelter .
dont you dare insult the indigious british with this clap trap
at the end of the day they have commited treason and should be deported
or prefably hung.

it appears this is what i recieved the infraction for because certain members didnt like my comment.
if i reported everyone who sent me a bad reply back half the FG would be on infractions
i believe i broke no FG rule only walking a thin line and i would request the mods remove this infraction as it is unfair and politcally correct gagging.
i cannot understand abbey how you can side with traitors who accept shelter and money and then hurl racist abuse at us and try and kill our innocent citizens in the name of jhad.
these and our own home grown dangerous nutters need weeding out execute them as a warning to others that terrorism will not be tolerated
as to being a lunkheaded bnp supporter there are some very intelegent professional people that are members of the bnp

[spot]

Perhaps if you were to read again the terms and conditions you signed up to when you registered, Andy? That would help remove all these misunderstandings.