muslim fanatics hurl hate abuse at our soldiers the AAgrumpy column

[pantoandy]

hello its only grumps back again with another rant for your pleasure
i came across this not just in the sun but carried by the majority of the national newspapers a story which sickened me .

BRAVE soldiers back from Iraq were forced to endure a tirade of abuse yesterday — from hate-filled BRITISH Muslims.

Fifteen fanatics staged a sickening protest — sanctioned by police — as 200 Royal Anglian troops marched in a welcome home parade.
They wielded banners branding the soldiers butchers, war criminals, murderers, terrorists — and baby killers.

They brandished placards showing obscene photos of mutilated children. And they yelled: “Anglian soldiers go to hell.”
Support soldiers from the Royal Anglian regiment at homecoming parades in Watford at 12.30pm today and Lincoln at 12.15pm tomorrow

The demo triggered fury among thousands of well-wishers who turned out to salute the troops in Luton, Beds.

One an 18-year-old man was today charged with racially aggravated harassment.
The second aged in his 40s, was handed a fixed penalty notice.

And as they were challenged by angry onlookers, cops formed a protective ring around them.

The soldiers, from the Anglians’ 2nd Battalion, recently returned from a tough six-month tour in Basra, southern Iraq, where they trained local forces.

Last night the treatment meted out to them by the extremists was denounced by a host of political leaders including Prime Minister Gordon Brown and Defence Secretary John Hutton.

Mr Hutton said: “I condemn the tiny minority who used this opportunity to make utterly ridiculous and insulting comments to these brave men and women.”

Mr Brown said: “The whole country is proud of our brave servicemen and women who serve their country with great distinction and courage.

“It is therefore disappointing a tiny minority tried but ultimately failed to disrupt today’s event.” Shadow Defence Secretary Dr Liam Fox called the demo “disgraceful, appalling and offensive”.

He added today that while there was a right to freedom of speech “there is not a right to disruption”.

Muslim MP and Justice Minister Shahid Malik said: “All decent people will be sickened by the antics of this group of extremists. The idea that these soldiers are ‘baby killers’ is profoundly repugnant.”

The protest was staged by members of a group called Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah. It is thought to have been formed by former members of banned organisation Al-Muhajiroun.

They hurled abuse as the battalion, which has lost two young privates in action in Iraq, passed Luton town hall.

One of those arrested was a man who climbed on to a shopping centre roof to throw a packet of bacon at the fanatics.

Another local, who gave up his lunch break to hail the troops, said: “These Muslims were lucky they didn’t get lynched.

“To hear people scream ‘baby killers’ at our soldiers was appalling. On one hand they profess to hate everything about Britain and on the other they’re only too happy to live here and benefit from the protection of our police.”

The protesters remained defiant last night. One of them, Abu Omar, said: “Those soldiers were in Iraq murdering and mutilating innocent people. They had blood on their hands.”

Mr Omar, 30, who said he was born in Luton and is a carer for the disabled, added: “They have come into a town with a large Muslim population to promote an illegal war. It is a disgrace.

“We are supposed to congratulate and support terrorists who are no better than Hitler.”

But a member of Luton Central Mosque branded the fanatics “idiots”. He said: “They represent a small number of people from the Muslim community. Police should have moved them along.”

Supt Andy Martin defended the decision to allow the demo. He said: “We’ve been involved in the planning of this event. We were on hand to ensure members of the public who wished to watch could do so safely while anyone wanting to exercise their right to lawful protest could also be accommodated.”

The Army said the battalion — known as The Poachers — were “deeply touched” by those who turned out to applaud them. As the demo went on, fallen L/Cpl Stephen Kingscott of 1st Battalion, The Rifles, was given a funeral with full military honours in his home city of Plymouth, Devon.

Stephen, 22, was shot dead on patrol in Afghanistan. His parents Michael and Wendy said: “He will always be in our thoughts.”

AAG

without doing to much racialy motivated ranting i dont actually know who is worst the muslim fanatics or the police for allowing this to happen.
the daily star described them as the enemy within.
this is true the police could have realisticly arrested them all for inciting racial hatred checked their immigration status and booted them out of the uk.
yet 2 people were arrested the gentleman who threw a packet of bacon at the fanatics which i personally thought very funny and an 18 year old who was ironicly arrested for racial hatred yet the filth didnt arrest one fanatic for racial hatred no wonder theres no respect for lilly law when they side with scum like this.
the crowd could have easily been outnumbered by the watchers and these fanatics hung from the nearest lamp post as what they were doing wasnt a lawfull protest but an act of treason against the country that took them in fed and gave shelter to this scum.
but on the other side even the politicians and the muslim community condemmed this act so hopefully retrebution will come from the muslim community if not why arent these fanatics being hunted and deported or is it our politicans making the appropriate noises ?
it appears that p.c no longer stands for police constable but political correctness
he should have thrown the bacon at the pigs sorry i mean police instead.

AAG

[Snowfire]

I was quite touched and impressed by the remarks of a young Sgt Major who when interviewed after the march said, with not a hint of irony in his voice "It is their God given right to protest"

Says a lot really

[OpenMind]

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As far as I can tell, there were no racist taunts. They were protesting against the soldiers. They were actually protesting from the left hand wall of Luton Town Hall. The good thing is that they are in the extreme minority there.

[spot]

Originally Posted by pantoandy

They wielded banners branding the soldiers butchers, war criminals, murderers, terrorists — and baby killers.

Fair comment really then.

Tell me, if an Afghan regiment had spent the last six months hiding inside impregnable barracks in England and gone out under total air supremacy to blow up the homes of Labour Party supporters throughout, say, Dorset and Somerset, finally going back to parade through Herat, would you have sympathized with any Afghan war protesters who placarded their parade?

[pantoandy]

Originally Posted by spot

Fair comment really then.

Tell me, if an Afghan regiment had spent the last six months hiding inside impregnable barracks in England and gone out under total air supremacy to blow up the homes of Labour Party supporters throughout, say, Dorset and Somerset, finally going back to parade through Herat, would you have sympathized with any Afghan war protesters who placarded their parade?

hi spot long time no see
its just wrong how these fanatics can incite racial hatred and get away with it yet a bystander throws a packet of bacon at them and is arrested by the filth .
THE POLITICALLY CORRECT BRIGADE STRIKE AGAIN !!!!!!
OR ONE LAW FOR US ONE LAW FOR THEM .
hope to cross swords with you again spot

[oscar]

Originally Posted by pantoandy

hi spot long time no see
its just wrong how these fanatics can incite racial hatred and get away with it yet a bystander throws a packet of bacon at them and is arrested by the filth .
THE POLITICALLY CORRECT BRIGADE STRIKE AGAIN !!!!!!
OR ONE LAW FOR US ONE LAW FOR THEM .
hope to cross swords with you again spot

The fact remains that the muslims in question are British citizens there-fore they have a right to protest and stage a demo providing no-one is assaulted. That is the law. Legally, they were doing nothing wrong. It is no different to me protesting against the thirs run-way or fox hunting.

The returning soldiers are not hero's, don't make that mistake. They volunteered and entered an illegal war based on lie's and corruption.
I wish i had known the venue as i would have been with them.

[pantoandy]

Originally Posted by oscar

The fact remains that the muslims in question are British citizens there-fore they have a right to protest and stage a demo providing no-one is assaulted. That is the law. Legally, they were doing nothing wrong. It is no different to me protesting against the thirs run-way or fox hunting.

The returning soldiers are not hero's, don't make that mistake. They volunteered and entered an illegal war based on lie's and corruption.
I wish i had known the venue as i would have been with them.

then i am afraid spot you are a traitor to the crown and no better

[oscar]

Originally Posted by pantoandy

then i am afraid spot you are a traitor to the crown and no better

I think you'll find that our fellow countrymen would agree with Spot and myself and not you.
Your hatred of the muslims and i remember your equally disdainful objection to the Palistinians protesting about Israel's action on Gaza, is down to your BNP tendencies rather than your legal knowledge or common sense.

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[oscar]

Originally Posted by spot

Fair comment really then.

Tell me, if an Afghan regiment had spent the last six months hiding inside impregnable barracks in England and gone out under total air supremacy to blow up the homes of Labour Party supporters throughout, say, Dorset and Somerset, finally going back to parade through Herat, would you have sympathized with any Afghan war protesters who placarded their parade?

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Just for a little humour in the BNP rant.

[BTS]

Originally Posted by oscar

The fact remains that the muslims in question are British citizens there-fore they have a right to protest and stage a demo providing no-one is assaulted. That is the law. Legally, they were doing nothing wrong. It is no different to me protesting against the thirs run-way or fox hunting.

The returning soldiers are not hero's, don't make that mistake. They volunteered and entered an illegal war based on lie's and corruption.
I wish i had known the venue as i would have been with them.

Two points......

1)
You defend the right of the Muslims here on this thread but in the hunting thread you put down the hunters who were legally hunting....

Quote, Oscar

"the muslims in question are British citizens there-fore they have a right to protest and stage a demo providing no-one is assaulted."

It could be said:
the huntsmen in question are British citizens there-fore they have a right to legally exist and stage a hunt providing no-one is assaulted.
Can't have it both ways.

2)
How do you figure this is an illegal war?
Show me the law broken?

il⋅le⋅gal   /ɪˈligəl/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [i-lee-guhl] Show IPA
–adjective 1.forbidden by law or statute.2.contrary to or forbidden by official rules, regulations, etc.: The referee ruled that it was an illegal forward pass.


And just because they enlisted they are not heros.........? (They didn't make up anything as you suppose)

You say you wish you could have been there to say this:

"They wielded banners branding the soldiers butchers, war criminals, murderers, terrorists — and baby killers.

They brandished placards showing obscene photos of mutilated children. And they yelled: “Anglian soldiers go to hell.”


Wow you might have attacked that kid out of malice and not to support a war veteran memorial after all???

I need to rethink here...