British Rule In India

[oscar]

Originally Posted by Nomad

Theyre trying to build infrastructure. Schools, hospitals, power plants, clean water supply stations. Theyre trying to provide an alternative crop to poppy growing. Theyre trying to give girls an opportunity to pursue an education free from acid being thrown in their faces.
Theyre trying to give the average citizens freedom to pursue a life free of terror. Any stability in the region is good for everyone.
All evil stuff.

Well, here i do agree with you however, if we hadn't of bombed the shyte out of the place in the beggining, we would not have to re-build.
One thing i have looked into is opium cultivation in Afghan. Under Taliban rule, production is at it's lowest in the north of Afghan. In the south were the mujahideen still rule, that is where the cultivation is most highest. The Taliban have always frowned upon and dished out their own justice to poppy farmers.
There is no doubt that yes the Taliban are on some aspects still living in the dark ages but why are they the enemy and why are we fighting them? However much we dis-agree with their way of life, let us not forget that they are the elected government of the Afghan people exactly the same as Hamas is the elected government of Palistine. It is not reason to occupy and rage war against any country because we do not agree with their elected government. If that was the case, Britain would have been bombed into oblivion during the Thatcher regime.

[Nomad]

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Originally Posted by oscar

Well, here i do agree with you however, if we hadn't of bombed the shyte out of the place in the beggining, we would not have to re-build.

The cowards were hiding among farmers and peasants, in their homes after being ousted. They brought war to people homes assuming we wouldnt retaliate.

One thing i have looked into is opium cultivation in Afghan. Under Taliban
rule, production is at it's lowest in the north of Afghan. In the south were the mujahideen still rule, that is where the cultivation is most highest. The Taliban have always frowned upon and dished out their own justice to poppy farmers.

Production is down because weve had an effect on the cultivation and because now Mexico is the main supplier. Its easier and cheaper to get the product into the states from our own borders. If Afghan farmers have a profitable alternative to the current risk theyve been taking they will take it.

There is no doubt that yes the Taliban are on some aspects still living in the dark ages but why are they the enemy and why are we fighting them? However much we dis-agree with their way of life, let us not forget that they are the elected government of the Afghan people exactly the same as Hamas is the elected government of Palistine. It is not reason to occupy and rage war against any country because we do not agree with their elected government. If that was the case, Britain would have been bombed into oblivion during the Thatcher regime.

They openly threat the worlds security. Do you think their elections are like ours ? Monitored, secure voting processes and who is their opposition ? If they lost an election do you think theyd give their blessings and become law abiding citizens ?
These people will stop at nothing to fulfill their personal self fulfilling prophecy. The citizens of Afghanistan have no alternative but to comply and they live in fear. No one wants to live in an under developed shithole.
Do you ?

[oscar]

[quote=Nomad;1162189]

Production is down because weve had an effect on the cultivation and because now Mexico is the main supplier. Its easier and cheaper to get the product into the states from our own borders. If Afghan farmers have a profitable alternative to the current risk theyve been taking they will take it.




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I beg to differ. I can get the statistics as a link easiy but it took me hours whe i first went through them. The statistics i have seen were from before 'Desert Storm'. Here i one interesting link that will back up what i have said.

Opium and the Taliban Story (www.islaam.org.uk)

As for living in a shithole........ No i would not live in a **** hole because i wa not born into one and i don't live in one now. Afghans know no different. It is only Western culture that makes us believe that we have a better life than them. Who are we to tell them how to live?
I myself often yearn for life before technology came along and if i could persuede Mr O, i'd be very happy on some remote island off the coast of Scotland with a small farm.
We just assume they can not be happy because they don't have the trappings of western life.

[Nomad]

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I beg to differ.

Then beg.
It feeds my insatiable thirst for power.

[Bryn Mawr]

Originally Posted by Nomad

They originated from Saudi Arabia but were stationed all over the world. Atta was in Germany others were in Afghanistan. Bin Laden himself was Saudi but his country renounced him. The event wasnt Saudi sanctioned.
Saudi ties were coincidental.

Whatever the words that were said, I think you'll find it was Saudi financed.

[oscar]

Originally Posted by Bryn Mawr

Whatever the words that were said, I think you'll find it was Saudi financed.

I thought that Bryn but i wasn't sure so i didn't post it. I will google.

[oscar]

Originally Posted by Bryn Mawr

Whatever the words that were said, I think you'll find it was Saudi financed.

Intelligence Reports on Iraq and Saudi Arabia

An interesting link

[Nomad]

Originally Posted by Bryn Mawr

Whatever the words that were said, I think you'll find it was Saudi financed.

Youre implying governmentally financed or dollars funneled through, originating from Saudi Arabia ?
We all know Bin Ladens money is Saudi but I think you can hardly hold the Saudis responsible for that.

[Bryn Mawr]

Originally Posted by Nomad

Youre implying governmentally financed or dollars funneled through, originating from Saudi Arabia ?
We all know Bin Ladens money is Saudi but I think you can hardly hold the Saudis responsible for that.

I'm implying that the oft repeated statements that the Bin Laden family and the Saudi government have disowned Osama are a smokescreen and that money has continued to come out of Saudi to finance the terrorism.

[oscar]

Originally Posted by Nomad

Youre implying governmentally financed or dollars funneled through, originating from Saudi Arabia ?
We all know Bin Ladens money is Saudi but I think you can hardly hold the Saudis responsible for that.

Did you read the report link about Saudi funding that i put on a few posts ago?