Eugenics through military service!

[Snowfire]

I posted in another thread of yours that you had thought about it (compulsory euthenasia) more than was healthy. The same applies here. I joked that your medicine cabinet should be immediately examined. Now I hope sooner rather than later

You're views are repulsive

[YZGI]

Originally Posted by flopstock

Sorry J, nothing really to argue here. This is, without doubt, one of the most moronic threads I've ever wasted time on, (and I've read plenty of nomads). Can't argue logic, because you follow no logic other then being illogical. Can't use reason, because your basic reasoning is based on your own posting of such idiocy and unsound lack of argument. Can't make light of it, as it's already a joke.

This falls into that category of post that we would tend to defend when our friends make them on normal topics. There is nothing to support them other then ones own opinion. So have at it .

On the other hand....

I am considering reporting your post (yes this moderator considers herself just as entitled as the next member to find crap objectionable). I also encourage any other member that falls into one of your euthanize categories to report same post based on the following site rule:

No "Flaming": Please do not post any messages that harrass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member or guest.

As a member with a bona fide sickness, physical or mental handicap I take exception to your insulting and belittling characterization of my worth and your proposal of life threat to both myself and others like me.

You have a good one, however.

I thought you would make it through this until I read the one about having sex..he he

[Lon]

Originally Posted by joona

(I wasn't sure whether this subforum was the correct place to post this. If it's not, feel free to move it)

I propose the following plan to weed out the bad people from society:

Military service should be compulsory for everyone, and I mean EVERYONE. Both men and women, no matter what their physical and/or mental condition is.

The military service would last five years and will be started when the person turns 18. The training areas will be large concentration camps where the discipline will be purposefully harsh to make sure that only the best and the most obedient will graduate, and the rest are euthanised.

The trainees will be treated like animals in order to turn them into obedient followers of the state, and therefore they will not have - for example - proper medicare or a right to meet their family members while in the service. Torture will be used as one of the methods of disciplining. The trainees will not have any free time outside of sleeping, and the living conditions are harsh. There will also be lots of propaganda to correct their false conceptions about weak ideas such as democracy and pacifism. There will be compulsory morning/evening prayers to the Head of State. The following is a more accurate list of what results in being euthanised:

Those who refuse to join the service will be euthanised.

Those who protest against the service or it's existence will be euthanised.

Those who protest against the discipline or fail to follow it will be euthanised.

Those who try to avoid the service or desert it will be euthanised.

Those who fail in their training because of a physical/mental handicap will be euthanised.

Those who fall behind will be euthanised.

Those who have sex with other trainees will be euthanised.

Those who cannot train anymore due to a sickness will be euthanised.

Those who fail to show the proper adoration and respect for their fatherland and/or the Head of State will be euthanised.

Failure to take part in the morning/evening prayers to the Head of State will result in euthanasia.

Those who leave the training area to meet their family members will be euthanised.

(There are more things that result in euthanasia, but it takes too long to list them all)

Claiming that the former offences are not serious will result in euthanasia.



This way we can kill off the weak people, and I think it's a very good way too.
After graduating, the soldier will have to take the following oath:

"I [insert name here] with the ID-number [insert personal ID-number here] - unworthy though I am - will always be loyal to the Head of State, and protect him from any threats, both foreign and domestic. I will never critisise his regime and will never seek any political influence. My Duty is to protect the Head of State and defend his power and his country from threats from outside and inside. I will obey any commands given to me from the Head of State without question. I will love the Head of State beyond any other human being or god, and I will gladly die for the Him if needed.
I will always be loyal to the Head of State no matter what his decisions and political, religious, ideological or philosophical opinions may be. Praised be the Head of State and his country, the most beloved of beloved!"

Failure to take the oath or mispronouncing it will result in euthanasia.

The euthanasia procedure (in all cases) will be carried out either by impalement on a stake or through crucifixion (The offender is allowed to choose).

This way we can build a prosperous nation of strong individuals who will gladly obey the state.

Any thoughts or ideas?

Question---------Why the Fatherland & not the Motherland? & How is The Head of State selected and who does the selecting?

[YZGI]

Originally Posted by joona

(I wasn't sure whether this subforum was the correct place to post this. If it's not, feel free to move it)

I propose the following plan to weed out the bad people from society:

Military service should be compulsory for everyone, and I mean EVERYONE. Both men and women, no matter what their physical and/or mental condition is.

The military service would last five years and will be started when the person turns 18. The training areas will be large concentration camps where the discipline will be purposefully harsh to make sure that only the best and the most obedient will graduate, and the rest are euthanised.

The trainees will be treated like animals in order to turn them into obedient followers of the state, and therefore they will not have - for example - proper medicare or a right to meet their family members while in the service. Torture will be used as one of the methods of disciplining. The trainees will not have any free time outside of sleeping, and the living conditions are harsh. There will also be lots of propaganda to correct their false conceptions about weak ideas such as democracy and pacifism. There will be compulsory morning/evening prayers to the Head of State. The following is a more accurate list of what results in being euthanised:

Those who refuse to join the service will be euthanised.

Those who protest against the service or it's existence will be euthanised.

Those who protest against the discipline or fail to follow it will be euthanised.

Those who try to avoid the service or desert it will be euthanised.

Those who fail in their training because of a physical/mental handicap will be euthanised.

Those who fall behind will be euthanised.

Those who have sex with other trainees will be euthanised.

Those who cannot train anymore due to a sickness will be euthanised.

Those who fail to show the proper adoration and respect for their fatherland and/or the Head of State will be euthanised.

Failure to take part in the morning/evening prayers to the Head of State will result in euthanasia.

Those who leave the training area to meet their family members will be euthanised.

(There are more things that result in euthanasia, but it takes too long to list them all)

Claiming that the former offences are not serious will result in euthanasia.



This way we can kill off the weak people, and I think it's a very good way too.
After graduating, the soldier will have to take the following oath:

"I [insert name here] with the ID-number [insert personal ID-number here] - unworthy though I am - will always be loyal to the Head of State, and protect him from any threats, both foreign and domestic. I will never critisise his regime and will never seek any political influence. My Duty is to protect the Head of State and defend his power and his country from threats from outside and inside. I will obey any commands given to me from the Head of State without question. I will love the Head of State beyond any other human being or god, and I will gladly die for the Him if needed.
I will always be loyal to the Head of State no matter what his decisions and political, religious, ideological or philosophical opinions may be. Praised be the Head of State and his country, the most beloved of beloved!"

Failure to take the oath or mispronouncing it will result in euthanasia.

The euthanasia procedure (in all cases) will be carried out either by impalement on a stake or through crucifixion (The offender is allowed to choose).

This way we can build a prosperous nation of strong individuals who will gladly obey the state.

Any thoughts or ideas?

After you ethanize all the people whom will you lead? Oh wait if you don't pray to yourself twice a day you will have to kill yourself. Is that when the dinasaurs return?

[el guapo]

i think Compulsory Euthanasia is one of the best ideas i have heard for a long time may i suggest we start with the author of this thread

[hoppy]

Originally Posted by el guapo

i think Compulsory Euthanasia is one of the best ideas i have heard for a long time may i suggest we start with the author of this thread

He's just some Joe college type who read a book. Next week, he'll read a different book.

[flopstock]

Originally Posted by hoppy

He's just some Joe college type who read a book. Next week, he'll read a different book.

[Accountable]

Originally Posted by joona

This way we can build a prosperous nation of strong individuals who will gladly obey the state.

Any thoughts or ideas?

Of course you mean physically strong rather than mentally or psychologically, right? I don't see the value. Why would I want to obey the state? why would you want to obey the state. Come to think of it, your state (traditionally) wants you to be free and seek your own way. This thread shows your disobedience. Wouldn't you be euthanized by your own rule?

Originally Posted by joona

A strong government can make decisions that benefit the whole! Democracy is bad because the westerners are too simple-minded to rule themselves!

A strong government can also make decisions that can destroy the whole. Explain, please, why I should think it important to give up my self-rule - trusting the individuals around me to honor my self-rule as I honor theirs - to individuals who do not honor self-rule, therefore do not trust the individual to do the right thing, whom it follows should not be trusted to do the right thing.

[hoppy]

Anyone implementing this idea would self destruct. Look to nazi Germany for an example. Had they not used the jews as an object of hate, Germany would have had many more fighting men in their ranks, not to mention skilled craftsmen in their factories.

[Nomad]

Originally Posted by flopstock

Sorry J, nothing really to argue here. This is, without doubt, one of the most moronic threads I've ever wasted time on, (and I've read plenty of nomads).

I dont know whether to be insulted or indignant.
Right now Im just giddy.