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    Re: The Trump visit might be more interesting than we thought...

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    Speaking as someone who is still a member of the EU, I do not consider US standards as good enough for UK people especially in regards to cheap food.
    My American daughter says they don't 'do' cheese, and 'cider' is apple juice, bread and cakes never go bad.
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    My American daughter says they don't 'do' cheese, and 'cider' is apple juice, bread and cakes never go bad.
    Oh they go bad alright. seen the experiments?

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    The worst part is that he accused the Sun of doing Fake News, saying that he never said any such things - then they come up with the recording.

    Now, I'm no fan of the Sun, and it's true to say that they've done more than their fair share of Fake News Stories, but this most certainly is not one of them.

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    Re: The Trump visit might be more interesting than we thought...

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    Oh they go bad alright. seen the experiments?
    But it takes 3 months ?
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    Re: The Trump visit might be more interesting than we thought...

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    The worst part is that he accused the Sun of doing Fake News, saying that he never said any such things - then they come up with the recording.

    Now, I'm no fan of the Sun, and it's true to say that they've done more than their fair share of Fake News Stories, but this most certainly is not one of them.
    They tape everything as the Sun.
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    Re: The Trump visit might be more interesting than we thought...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruv View Post
    They tape everything as the Sun.
    The thing is, his base in America see Trump calling it fake news and accept that then the news cycle moves on and they never hear the corrections etc (and probably wouldn't believe them if they did) 98% of Republicans still approve of him. Largely I'm guessing because of his credit fuelled spending spree (see my comments elsewhere about him buying popularity).


    Now he's picking fights with Iran. Easy target.

    Incidentally, Johnson is looking increasingly Trump-like in his politics. Expect more far right populism here.
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    Re: The Trump visit might be more interesting than we thought...

    Quote Originally Posted by Clodhopper View Post
    Incidentally, Johnson is looking increasingly Trump-like in his politics. Expect more far right populism here.

    Remembering a heated arguement with a workmate 30 plus years ago as he laid into trades unions wrecking the country.
    I said I feared the right wing a lot more, because they have the power, money and network................I am extremely unhappy at being proved correct.

    They scare the life out of me.
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    Re: The Trump visit might be more interesting than we thought...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruv View Post
    Remembering a heated arguement with a workmate 30 plus years ago as he laid into trades unions wrecking the country.
    I said I feared the right wing a lot more, because they have the power, money and network................I am extremely unhappy at being proved correct.

    They scare the life out of me.
    And me. The only part I'd disagree about is that they didn't have the money. Now they do. Part of that I think is that the rich backers decided Brexit was the time to go for it and partly because I've seen two serious people in interviews* state matter of factly that Putin is funding the far right here and in the US. (Also, incidentally, a way in which Putin helps Trump that isn't strictly collusion)

    * These were both military historians, both currently active. One was a visiting fellow at Oxford (which means somebody is paying for them to be there to do research, they are not primarily associated with in this case Oxford and they are doing work at the same sort of level as the lecturers rather than students). They usually aren't active members of the intelligence community though they sometimes have been and they do get asked their opinions by the intelligence and military community if their fields happen to be relevant. If they are saying Putin is funding the far right they have good reasons. (It still doesn't mean 100% they are right but it does mean that intelligent people whose professional concern this is, have reason to believe it. That's better than most of us can do)
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