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<t>socwrkMera wrote: i have some pretty strong opinions on this. One, i hear more and more, "well, what'd he expect". Come on now. He might have been wrestling alligators for a career, but he was doing something I did on a cruise. It's the least most dangerous thing he's probably ever done, and he's...

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socwrk/ hi, welcome to the forum. I just seen you responded to a post of mine earlier. Kinda funny we arrive at the same place. There's thousands of threads here on this forum. You'll like it, there's something for everyone. I take it you're a social worker?

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<t>flopstock wrote: yeah, it's on cnn and other sites too. that's too bad. he has a littleone just a couple of years old i think:( Yeah I know. That was my first thought. It made my heart clench when people started making rude statements in the media about his...

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<t>socwrkMera wrote: rainingsun---good topic. if anything the viewers of this thread have been astronomical. it needs attention and by the numbers i see, it has. Thankyou. No matter what you think there's always somebody else out there that thinks the way you do. Take noone else down and allow for n...

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<t>wildfireblue wrote: First i have to say that reading through this stuff has amazed me of the involvment of Rainingsun through this topic. I think it's pretty neat to see the person who made it actually stick around and see where it went. You don't see that to often for that amount of time and rep...

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<t>Accountable wrote: Sorry, you don't get to choose for me. Somebody will always be there to pass judgment on everything you do. Do what you will, but don't think you deserve support, or even acceptance, from me. After all, haven't you passed judgment on people that disagree with you? Yaaaay Freedo...

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<t>nvalleyvee wrote: Absolutely, I agree. I have subbed in predominatly white schools and at this HS there have only been 5 or 6 infants per year out of a population of 900 students.........go figure. I think you are right. I think the big popuation of Native Americans has made the most d...

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<t>nvalleyvee wrote: I sub in the high school in a small town where 60% are Native American, 30% are Hispanic and 10% are White. The very best birth control I have seen are the girls that get pregnant in High School. NONE of the other girls want to go their way. In this town of minorities .............

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<t>RedGlitter wrote: Listen, April, I've been here much longer than you and I'm not going anywhere. You are welcome to start any thread you wish but you had better be prepared and willing to read replies you may not like. I don't tell people what they should do nor have I so you must have pulled tha...

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<t>RedGlitter wrote: RainingSun, you are the one always blabbing about how you enjoy EVERYONE'S input regardless of what they say so get over it. I have noticed your tone the last few days with people and I find you really offensive. I don't care if you like my opinion or what I have to say or if yo...

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<t>miriam wrote: I'm sorry. I don't really understand what you want. When I think about it, I can't figure out what I said that was so terrible as to elicit your response. If you want to know what I think........... I think abortion is wrong. I think it is killing a human being at it's sm...

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<t>miriam wrote: I don't know Acccountable How many kids get pregnant at age 10, and I would certainly allow that that is a circumstance where abortion would be considered a good thing. And kids at age 10 probably do know the consequences. They know everything else. Kids under 10, even 6 ...

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Adam Zapple wrote: Rainingsun, you took LuLu the wrong way. Go back and reread.

I'm aware of what it meant, i know what I read, the interpretation and opinion I have of it are my entitlement, and I meant what I said.

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<t>miriam wrote: I would say that childhool stops when these children have sex because they know they will just get aborted if they get pregnant. Anybody old enough to have sex is old enough to shoulder the responsibility of the consequences, that being pregnancy and a child. Why would anybody bothe...

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<t>Lulu2 wrote: "The idea that you shouldn't have sex unless you're going to keep a potential baby is highhorsed and unapplicable to human nature. It is idealist which is why it doesn't work." ++++++++++++++ YUP! It's almost PUNITIVE, isn't it? "So, you used birth control conscientiously ...

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<r>RedGlitter wrote: Twice AZ has asked the question of whether or not I would "let" a 12 year old keep her baby. Yes I would. Flame away. Accountable thinks my comment that once pregnant, childhood stops, is stupid. No it isn't. Having never been pregnant I can see why you would think that. Were ou...

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<r>Adam Zapple wrote: I'm sorry rainingsun, no offense, but comments like these are made all the time but have no basis in reality. They are just talking points bandied around by the pro-choice side. There are plenty of people, including yours truly, who have been in those situations and remain comm...

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<t>daBunnyWendy7 wrote: Not being allowed (OR atleast applauded for exercising"freedom") to kill another human being IS NOT a punishment. IF you were FORCED to raise an unwanted child,THAT might ,however be,of course. As I suggested,even the pain of childbirth can be avoided AN...

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<t>to end this for this evening any how, i will say that the one thing needing to be understood by all is that unless you stand in one's shoes, your understanding enough to make decisions for them is less than zilch. The next time you go somewhere think of what goes on behind the scenes, behind the ...

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<t>daBunnyWendy7 wrote: Yes,both flora and fauna alike enjoy MORE protection & respect.And,yes,either an entity is human & has HUMAN rights OR "it" is NOT AND NEVER will BE (human). Author Info: Michelle Queneau Bosworth MS, CGC, The Gale Group Inc., Gale, Detroit, Gal...

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<t>Adam Zapple wrote: Because some people believe that "your zygote" is a defenseless, living human being (and I say that w/o judgement to you or any other woman). There is no other reason to oppose abortion. We have laws protecting sea turtle eggs but not feti or fetuses, whichever you ...

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<t>I'm going to write this reply with a slightly different approach here and see what comes of it. This will be my overall opinion on this subject of abortion in general. IF YOUR CHILD IS OLD ENOUGH TO SURVIVE IN A NEONATAL INTESIVE CARE UNIT THEN FOR GOD SAKE USE SOME SENSE AND DON'T SU...

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<t>daBunnyWendy7 wrote: Why Are Men Trying To Make Abortion Decisions??? 1.rainingsun 15yr o's "punishment"watermelon,mistake NOT...,IMHO...BABY.PERIOD.END OF STORY .However tiny,STILL a baby she MADE a BABY , NOT a mistake. 2.Accountable Parents,NOT child.CHILD's chance at gr...

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<t>Tigerlily wrote: loads of women of my generation have had teenage pregnancies late 60s early 70s. Sheer carelessness cause the situation, not even ignorance, and at a time when educational opportunities were opening up for girls. I have no problem with that at all. I would have had a problem with...

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<t>onsekiz wrote: Hey, anybody supporting abortion (with no decent reason) is ignorant in my opinion. It's not about being women, or man, or animal, or alien, or G. W. Bush.. That's only my humble opinion, sorry if I hurt you. I have said it time and time again, but do not apologize...

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<t>onsekiz wrote: Babies have the right to live. I don't care what ignorant mothers think. I haven't yet finished reading the rest of these posts for the day, but I have to say this post has me at a high boil. It is only the ignorant mother who can disregard the life her child will ...

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<r>CheshireCat wrote: Sticky situation... The man does not have to endure the pregnancy or risk his life to have the baby. Again I will stick my neck out here and say that contraception is ultamately left to the woman. In this day and age, you do not have to be pregnant if you ...

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Bill Sikes wrote: If the woman wants the child, but the man doesn't, he's still got to pay maintenance...

Depending on the legal circumstances of the area...(sarcasm)

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<t>nvalleyvee wrote: I misread your title.......I thought you were talking about father's rights, not male lawmakers/politians. So I will expound on the rights of fathers.........they have them. If a woman does not want the child but the father does........does the father have a right to...

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<t>RedGlitter wrote: You call forcing birth control chemicals into your kid's system parenting? That's pretty sick, Accountable. NO! I'll tell you what's sick, people who still talk their children about the birds and the bees instead of sex, babies and genitals.....parents who'd rat...

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<t>Adam Zapple wrote: NEWS FLASH: FG News has learned that President George Bush can neither allow nor deny gay marriage. That previledge has been granted to the legislature, more specifically the legislature of each individual state, by none other than the constitution. Just as the constitution den...

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<r>zinkyusa wrote: Sexual orientation has 0 to do with determing if a couple will be good parents. If they can provide a safe and loving enviornment for kids then let them adopt. Those kids will probably be more stable than most kids in this country becuase they will have parents who want them. (He ...

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Regardless Of Any Stray From Subject, Assertive Comments Or Subtle Ones.....i'm Really Happy About The Replies And I Love Reading Them! You Guys And Gals Are All Really Great And Hope To Catch Up Sometime With You All In Other Topics As Well. April

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<t>Shweet tatersalad wrote: OK drop it every one,We are sinking to level we don't want too go too. They should ate Sally Struthers went they had the chance,when she was there doing those adds for save the children. I for one no longer want too involve myself is this crap or som...

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<t>Lulu2 wrote: Can we get back to teens having abortions? People never consider that contraceptives do fail, and people who use them don't always do it correctly. Many young men refuse to be responsible for birth control at all...should they then be involved in a girl's decision to terminate a preg...

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CheshireCat wrote: Hey, Tater never said anything about Africa, you brought that up. I don't think he insulted you either.

We were talking about birth control and you went off about Africa.

agreed....

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<t>Rapunzel wrote: Tater, you're being a silly arse! :p You know you can post what you like but you're saying it's all right for you to make derogatory remarks about the poverty in Africa when you haven't a clue what you're talking about and you're also making derogatory remarks about me...

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<t>Rapunzel wrote: CC, anything I say to Tater will be too harsh for you because I'm not fawning over your beloved. But surely thats better than worshipping the ground he walks on and making you jealous? :sneaky: Commercials for third world countries are made by charities who feel sorry ...

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<t>Shweet tatersalad wrote: Hey now every one ,thanks for the support,but i was ready too take this fight on myself. but if you feel as i do,and want too line up with me that s ok,but don't do it for me,do it for the country you love.It's hard for outsiders too know what it's like too hav...

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<t>CheshireCat wrote: What does any of this have to do with men making abortion decisions? Yes Abortion is a woman's issue, we are the ones that have to endure the procedure or the pregnancy. But if I ever found myself in that position, I would be compelled to make a decision with the fat...

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<t>Shweet tatersalad wrote: Woh there Kunta Kentae,I will with draw my comment if it is going too cause the hate too come from this site,I do not want too feed the in fighting going on here now.You live in the UK,And you know more about America then I do. So I crawl back into my dumpster ...

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<t>First off, as far as politics go regarding your "for the past 100yrs." statement.....if your world had been that devestated for that amount of time would you keep having children? The problem is just that. I never made the point that no kids equals no poverty. The point I was making is that in po...

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<r>zinkyusa wrote: The problem is getting the food to people who need it. I was in the miltary during the Somalia fiasco. We had plenty of food available but had trouble getting it out of Mogadishu. Crappy road system, warlords etc. The world gorws enough food these days so there is no excuse for pe...

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<t>Shweet tatersalad wrote: Maybe instead of droping food we can drop cases of condoms,Perhaps that would the system down long enough too maybe catch up with the food. LOL. That is exactly what my mother said to me one day when I was in highschool studying third world co...

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<t>A vaccine of preventative measures being above the call of a parent would be up there with every other vaccine we've had since the day we were born. It's a parent's obligation and right to put forth the first line of defense for they're children. If these children are in highschool, or less somet...

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<t>If something like that came to be, the first place they need to start is a third world country. Yes, taking care of ourselves is priority, but it's also the U.S. who seem more compelled to take care of other country's children. It has always bothered me that there are always donation commercials ...

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<t>The strange thing about it is that when I wrote it, it wasn't implying mandatory abortion.....once I read it again, and read that portion of your response, I realized that's exactly what I'm saying. Though take it loosely, because life is not textbook. Every situation is different....but in somew...

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<t>A fifteen year old has barely a clue of where they reside on a map! You really think that the reality of pregnancy is going to hit them before it happens. If children this young have the same true understanding of responsibility as an adult, why is the drinking age 21? I'd really love to see one ...

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<t>When does a day go by you don't watch the news and hear political parties talking good about one another. The way I see it, it seems like when a president appoints an official that's not of his party, it's pretty similar to the the way a marriage of two different ethnic groups ( not just black an...

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<t>Lulu2 wrote: Adoptions by same-sex couples are not legal in every state here. Are they legal in other countries?) I'm not sure, but chances of it being allowed in other countries is slim. Most other countries, not always to their benefit, are more indulged in a culture they've he...

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