I thank you for your response. I could not have asked for a better example of post-modernism thought in the modern day church. There is no need to respond as I will let your post speak for itself.

<t>Ted;741045 wrote: bepps:-6<br/> <br/> In answer to the original question I do not believe in predestination. If we have predestination than we do not live as free people. Either we are free or we are not. If the attitude is one of do as I say or you gonna burn baby then we do not have freedom and...

<t>spot;741049 wrote: Neither is it mine, Ted, but you have to take the belief system of the questioner as it comes. I'm sure bepp would feel uncomfortable if I described his god as satanic so I won't do that. He has as good a reason for his view, from his perspective of belief, as either you or I.<...

<t>Ted;741043 wrote: bepps:-6<br/> <br/> The absolute and inerrancy theory of the Bible is a creation of the reformation. The majority of Christians prior to that did not in general believe this.<br/> <br/> The Bible is not the word of God by virtue of its authorship but by virtue of the fact that G...

<t>Ted;740975 wrote: bepps:-6<br/> <br/> I would love to discuss this further as well. I've been a biblical and theological student both formally and informally for the past 40+ years. In fact I still take courses at the Vancouver School of Theology.<br/> <br/> "wide is the path to destruction." Did...

<t>I was questioning to get an idea as to people's knowledge of scripture on this forum.. Spot was correct in his post as to what I was trying to get at. I would like to post another scripture concerning God's will and His will being done.<br/> <br/> "What shall we say then? There is no injustice wi...

Understand that completely about agreeing about disagreeing. Based on "shalom" are you of Jewish faith? If you are, what are your views about God choosing based on the Torah and other Old Testament writings?

It's not a matter of me to prove anything to you. You either choose to believe it is God's written word or you do not. How can I prove to you anything. No more than you can prove to me whatever it is that drives your faith, or lack of it.

<t>Just questioning peoples beliefs. I can list a dozen verses of scripture where God chooses, not man. God setting Pharoah up just to destroy him so God's power could be displayed to the world as an example. People can choose to disbelieve scripture but people cannot deny what scripture says. That ...

<t>"For He chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love he predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with His pleasure and will." Ephesians 1:4-5<br/> <br/> In other words, God has chosen his elect. These individua...

Was wondering what individuals here think about predestination. Specifically God electing his children that will come to faith.

<r>Yes, I am in Montgomery, Al. Glad that you enjoyed the state. There is a man that I know from NY city and he told me of how he tells all his friends up north what a terrible place the state is. I asked him why and he said that he loves it, he just does not want people to move in and screw up the ...