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by DrJ
Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:31 am
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: John McCain is the Mastermind behind 9/11!!
Replies: 21
Views: 30962

John McCain is the Mastermind behind 9/11!!

<r>Accountable;941932 wrote: You dispute the irrefutable evidence I've presented?? What on earth for????<br/> <br/> <br/> I wasn't disputing,,, I was commenting on your fans observation<br/> <br/> ,,,Mr Angel,,,<EMOJI seq="1f914" tseq="1f914">:thinking:</EMOJI> I wish I had fans like that!<br/> <br/...
by DrJ
Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:13 am
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: How long did 9/11 preparations take?
Replies: 34
Views: 20927

How long did 9/11 preparations take?

jimbo;940989 wrote:


:yh_rotfl:yh_rotfl:yh_worshp:yh_clap

Now that ones a keeper!!
by DrJ
Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:06 am
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: John McCain is the Mastermind behind 9/11!!
Replies: 21
Views: 30962

John McCain is the Mastermind behind 9/11!!

<r>CARLA;931746 wrote: :yh_angel Yes your are an angel. <E>;)</E><br/> <br/> <br/> God love him!:yh_silly<br/> <br/> Nathan Janes’ painting of a dog blindfolded with an American flag captures the primary reason why it is so difficult to get the truth about 9/11 exposed. At the individual level, ma...
by DrJ
Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:36 pm
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: How long did 9/11 preparations take?
Replies: 34
Views: 20927

How long did 9/11 preparations take?

<t>acc wrote: <br/> <br/> Yeh that smiley is a clear indication how much you hate to say that. <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> Oh c'mon,,,ok,,, it's because I think you play like you don't know this,, and I'm merely on the other side of the discussion...<br/> <br/> Now I really don't know:-3<br/> <br/...
by DrJ
Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:33 pm
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<t>fuzzy butt;940683 wrote: So anwer my question.............why did you give us back "Hicks' <br/> <br/> Why did pressure from our government make you guys hand him over .?<br/> <br/> <br/> Who is hicks?,,Who is you guys? :-3<br/> <br/> Excuse me,, I'm a little slow,,, this is one huge puzzle with ...
by DrJ
Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:46 pm
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<t>fuzzy butt;940669 wrote: One thing that puts this all to rest ......................Osama said "yep we did it. "<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> Okay maybe in the western world it was made to look like this .........who knows?<br/> <br/> give it 50 years before classified info becomes apparent and you'll ...
by DrJ
Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:21 pm
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

Dewey2Me1MoThyme;940653 wrote: Roflmao @ O/p


I think it's got potential,,

with some more details,, names,, faces,,

Its a work in progress,,,c'mon man :yh_glasse

Back up Charlie Wilson!!!:yh_money

:yh_rotfl
by DrJ
Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:27 am
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: Have You Heard About Republic Broadcasting ?
Replies: 54
Views: 8815

Have You Heard About Republic Broadcasting ?

Accountable;927433 wrote: :wah: Yer a trip.


Dog,,bone,,crush,,,mom,,,eight!!!! Jeeeeeeeeesus H Christttttt

Another trip to sillyville,,,,eh teach?

At least your consistent.............:wah:
by DrJ
Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:46 am
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<t>Here's my view of it all..<br/> <br/> When you put everything,,, every bit of info,, together,, it seems as if the people that are involved are at the highest levels of government,, and its just a small circle of associates.. Business partners you might say,, oil people,, people who are in the bu...
by DrJ
Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:08 am
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<r>facts wrote: <br/> <br/> 13. Democracy itself is endangered when the following conditions are found to be the case in the political culture of a nation:<br/> <br/> a. Government in all-too-many cases refuses to assign responsibility, promote transparency, or demand accountability from governing o...
by DrJ
Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:50 am
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<r>Daniyal;937976 wrote: The Facts ( Beyond Any Doubt ) Have Come And False Ways Were To Vanish . Surely , The False Ways Were To Vanish In Time ..<br/> <br/> <br/> There's more to the picture,,,,,,than meets the eye...<br/> <br/> ~~~~~~~~~~Hey Hey,,,,,,,,,,,, MY MY~~~~~~~~<br/> <br/> 9/11 Survivors...
by DrJ
Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:22 pm
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<r>The Truth is coming!<br/> <br/> As far as the cell phone question,, here is some new info,, you might find interesting,,,<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> For the Zacarias Moussoui trial, the government has released all its detailed evidence regarding the phone calls from the planes. The evidence is titled...
by DrJ
Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:10 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: Why don't more Christians defend Rev Wright?
Replies: 290
Views: 26029

Why don't more Christians defend Rev Wright?

<t>Ok I will,,,What exactly am I trying?<br/> <br/> You come off as a defensive Republican,,, but I'm not sure...<br/> <br/> In any case I believe your buying into,, or should I say seeming to,,buy into,, a lot of superficial krap,, his skin color for one,, you seem offended,, is this true?<br/> <br...
by DrJ
Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:46 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: Why don't more Christians defend Rev Wright?
Replies: 290
Views: 26029

Why don't more Christians defend Rev Wright?

<r>Accountable;935292 wrote: If that's your shot you need practice. <E>:D</E> Stop trying to "hear what I'm saying" and try it.<br/> <br/> <br/> Ok I will,,,What exactly am I trying?<br/> <br/> You come off as a defensive Republican,,, but I'm not sure...<br/> <br/> In any case I believe your buying...
by DrJ
Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:03 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: Why don't more Christians defend Rev Wright?
Replies: 290
Views: 26029

Why don't more Christians defend Rev Wright?

<r>Accountable;925313 wrote: What on earth has that got to do with Obama being no different than McCain? You didn't address my point at all.<br/> <br/> <br/> I'll give it a shot,,Teach<br/> <br/> I hear you saying people will vote for Obama just because he's Black,,<br/> <br/> There might be some tr...
by DrJ
Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:46 pm
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<t>Jester;933923 wrote: Doc, its cuz it aint proveable news, its bunk. Or are you also saying its a vast right wing conspiracy the likes that was against Clinton?<br/> <br/> <br/> I am not saying right/left /middle,, all I'm saying is there are so many theories,, and I admit some are so far out ther...
by DrJ
Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:08 pm
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<t>Accountable;933737 wrote: While ya'll are running around proving your foregone conclusions, ask: why isn't this news? With the media so hostile to anything Bush touches, this would be all over reputable news. Geraldo would have done a couple of specials every year. <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> I'm was...
by DrJ
Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:33 pm
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<r>Here's some opinions from sources you can judge for yourself ,,Acc<br/> <br/> if they may or may not have agendas,,or be credible..<br/> <br/> <URL url="http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_alan_mil_080112_twenty_five_u_s__mil.htm"><LINK_TEXT text="http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera ... s...
by DrJ
Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:58 pm
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<t>Jester;933687 wrote: hehehe look again bud and I have so much more... Just give me a few days...:wah:<br/> <br/> <br/> I am still reading it,,, and if I find other things like it,, I will post it..<br/> <br/> I just found that part interesting,,and worth mentioning..<br/> <br/> because its a scar...
by DrJ
Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:35 pm
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<r>Jester;933654 wrote: Hers a link here, and they dont have to be supersonic, just line of sight analog cell phones, the distance Not speed is what inables some cell calles to get through even at high altitudes.<br/> <br/> This will just whet yer appetite, I have more coming...<br/> <br/> <URL url=...
by DrJ
Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:10 pm
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<r>Bryn Mawr;933629 wrote: Why take the conclusion to an extreme that has not been suggested?<br/> <br/> If a single point of the official line is proven to be false in a way that cannot be accidental then the whole of the official explanation is in doubt.<br/> <br/> Calling doubt on that one point ...
by DrJ
Mon Jul 28, 2008 12:49 am
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<r>Accountable;932687 wrote: So you haven't checked those you've chosen to believe. Okay. I'll leave you to it then. I'm tired.<br/> <br/> <br/> Here's the site your looking for//<br/> <br/> <URL url="http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=4#steel"><LINK_TEXT text=...
by DrJ
Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:05 pm
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: What happened to the Pentagon on 9/11?
Replies: 7
Views: 1230

What happened to the Pentagon on 9/11?

<t>This is about all thats needed for this one,,:guitarist<br/> <br/> I wonder if the cell phones worked on this plane,,,<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> We'll never know what actually hit the building,, but the fact it was no passenger plane is enough for me.. This country needs good eyes,, and good m...
by DrJ
Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:21 am
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: What happened to the Pentagon on 9/11?
Replies: 7
Views: 1230

What happened to the Pentagon on 9/11?

<r>Here's what I've found so far,,<br/> <br/> The following Analysis is primarily focused on the outside of the Pentagon. When one takes this evidence alone it is very conclusive that a AA 757 did not hit the Pentagon. However there are some unconfirmed photographic evidence of wreckage of a 757 wit...
by DrJ
Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:54 am
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: How long did 9/11 preparations take?
Replies: 34
Views: 20927

How long did 9/11 preparations take?

<t>Accountable;931365 wrote: Don't worry, I won't confuse things with facts, just the stuff you & spot bring up.<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> Thank you both. Now we have a time frame. On to the next piece.<br/> <br/> <br/> Anybody that believes anything that comes at of this perticular white house aft...
by DrJ
Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:15 am
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<t>Accountable;932245 wrote: It's sad to see how quickly some people are willing to believe the absolute worst about the elected leaders of their own nation (assuming you're a US citizen). How much checking have you done on your sources to be sure they're not spinning their own "truth"? How can you ...
by DrJ
Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:42 am
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<t>Accountable;932149 wrote: <br/> <br/> "Facts" can be cited. Do you have links for your tome?<br/> <br/> <br/> That's about whats going to have to happen for most of the followers of the pied piper,,, after all if you did any of your own findings,, if you did find anything that raised any doubt in...
by DrJ
Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:57 pm
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<t>The Devil will tell you a thousand truths to convince you of one lie!<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> The heat of the fire,,,, is all you need to know? or better yet,,<br/> <br/> All you want to know? Whatever gets you thru the day,,my friend.,...<br/> <br/> The breakdowns in simple air-force procedure wo...
by DrJ
Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:54 am
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<t>Accountable;931057 wrote: The same could be said for you & spot.<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> Question: during, say, and earthquake or military attack, has a building ever collapsed? Has one fallen like a tree? Has one pancaked?<br/> <br/> <br/> Are these your questions?<br/> <br/> You might as wel...
by DrJ
Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:59 am
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: How long did 9/11 preparations take?
Replies: 34
Views: 20927

How long did 9/11 preparations take?

<t>theory wrote: SPOT<br/> <br/> So PNAC, who's membership is listed in Wikipedia, in a planned effort to force war in the Middle East, and specifically in Iraq, installed a trivial front man - a puppet - into the office of President of the United States, tracked, aided, and abetted the greatest act...
by DrJ
Sat Jul 26, 2008 7:08 am
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<t>Accountable;931164 wrote: So what you're saying is that because one part of this whole deal doesn't make immediate sense in your limited experience, then nothing that the gov't says can possibly true. Since the explanation about Bldg 7 doesn't fit your paradigm, then radical muslims could not pos...
by DrJ
Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:31 am
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<t>Accountable;931073 wrote: What's the point in paying attention when there's nothing there? I'm not asking rhetorical questions. You set yourself up as some kind of expert in building demolition. You've yet to answer one of my questions. Am I wasting my time?<br/> <br/> <br/> C'mon buddy,, I haven...
by DrJ
Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:03 am
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<t>Accountable;931057 wrote: The same could be said for you & spot.<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> Question: during, say, and earthquake or military attack, has a building ever collapsed? Has one fallen like a tree? Has one pancaked?<br/> <br/> <br/> My GOD man,, I think your on to something there,,,ACC...
by DrJ
Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:41 am
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<r>BTS;930556 wrote: Sorry just reading the thread and had to repost this garbble.........<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> This was me fav:<br/> <br/> "I don't know what that's called either,, but I am going to find out,,"<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> HUH????????<EMOJI seq="1f615" tseq="1f615">:confused:</EMOJI><E...
by DrJ
Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:12 am
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<t>Nomad;929952 wrote: The inferno softened the steel structure.<br/> <br/> Then the building pancaked down.<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> Sans charges.<br/> <br/> I listened to the architect describe the effect, he forgot to calculate a Boeing 767 flying into the bldg when he creat...
by DrJ
Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:53 pm
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<r>Galbally;927573 wrote: This discussion is pointless.<br/> <br/> <br/> I believe this discussion could lead to a new awareness in the minds of many,,<br/> <br/> but I do understand that without proof,,(Government sanctioned info)<br/> <br/> this to some is truly pointless,,<br/> <br/> You know it ...
by DrJ
Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:22 pm
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: How long did 9/11 preparations take?
Replies: 34
Views: 20927

How long did 9/11 preparations take?

<r>Is there something to this? <br/> <br/> It is something that could dispell GWB from any conspiracy,, but they are stalling,,,<br/> <br/> I want to be wrong,, Really,,<br/> <br/> these doubts in the minds of many need answered..<br/> <br/> I believe if they don't catch him,, all who have suspicion...
by DrJ
Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:54 pm
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: How long did 9/11 preparations take?
Replies: 34
Views: 20927

How long did 9/11 preparations take?

<t>Accountable;928002 wrote: DrJ, Spot, anybody else that claims 9/11 was an inside job:<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> The conversation about 9/11 is getting so convoluted I thought this part was worth a separate thread.<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> How long did preparations take the US gov't to pull off this co...
by DrJ
Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:19 pm
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<t>Jester;927831 wrote: You liked that weeny comment eh, glad I can add soem humor ot your day.<br/> <br/> Yes governments do lie, they strethc the truth, leave out information etc. I'd rather have the truth for better or worse.<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> Of course I ask good questions.... but a questio...
by DrJ
Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:45 pm
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<t>Galbally;927534 wrote: Dr J, I really don't think there is much point in explaining this, as I believe that most conspiracy theories become popular, not because they are plausible, but because there is something emotionally satisfying in thinking you know something everyone else doesn't. There ce...
by DrJ
Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:38 pm
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<t>Jester;926028 wrote: Id ask you if you were kidding but I wont waste my breath... I know yer serious... Spot action after the fact to make something out of nothing is is no where near the caliber discussion we are having and that s all I have time for about your first two examples. But I'll throw...
by DrJ
Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:55 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: Why don't more Christians defend Rev Wright?
Replies: 290
Views: 26029

Why don't more Christians defend Rev Wright?

<t>Accountable;922991 wrote: (in no way agreeing with you ... )<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> And you honestly think that Senator Obama is different? Do me a favor. Cover your TV screen so you won't be guilted by his skin color and give a listen. If you're able to be objective, I believe you'll hear a stan...
by DrJ
Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:49 pm
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<t>woppy71;924807 wrote: At last, some straight talking, in yer face stuff. All you conspiracy theorists should read this and take it in.<br/> <br/> <br/> Yea,, take it in,,,,take it in,,,<br/> <br/> go shopping,,,,,,go shopping,,,,,,,go shopping! ,,,, <br/> <br/> ,,,,,,,,,,:yh_hypno,,,,:yh_alien2,,...
by DrJ
Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:06 pm
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<t>Accountable;922995 wrote: :wah: Gal's a fine Irishman of longstanding trust here in the Garden. You'll not find a more skillful skeptic.<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> Now there's a discussion we might find ourselves on the same side of the fence about... the Amendment, not the windows explosion.<br/> <b...
by DrJ
Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:50 pm
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<t>Jester;922959 wrote: No not at all , its irish I do beilive and it means 'intelligent thought<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> No again, just form ireland across the net. Hes a mediator of the science trade.<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> Yes this has happened to me bofore, it times out or I loose my internet conn...
by DrJ
Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:58 am
Forum: Christianity
Topic: Why don't more Christians defend Rev Wright?
Replies: 290
Views: 26029

Why don't more Christians defend Rev Wright?

<t>Accountable;922825 wrote: Define "doomed" in this context. What do you see at the end game?<br/> <br/> <br/> A few rich,,and alot of poor,,starving people still ready for change,,<br/> <br/> just like China,,,Mexico,,Cuba...N Korea,,, all these good trade deals we got,, filling the pockets of the...
by DrJ
Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:23 am
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<t>Accountable;922836 wrote: or it's the way Galbally explained.<br/> <br/> <br/> Galbally,,,is that arabian for gullible?<br/> <br/> Now he/she come out of nowhere,,=NSA mediator?<br/> <br/> I know today I was typing in the other thread and as soon as I finished the story about the government losin...
by DrJ
Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:12 am
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<r>Accountable;922822 wrote: So you're seriously claiming that the charges were set months in advance?? :wah:<br/> <br/> ETA: BTW, you still haven't answered this question <URL url="http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/showpost.php?p=921263&postcount=14"><LINK_TEXT text="http://www.forumgarden.com/...
by DrJ
Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:59 am
Forum: Christianity
Topic: Why don't more Christians defend Rev Wright?
Replies: 290
Views: 26029

Why don't more Christians defend Rev Wright?

<t>Accountable;922786 wrote: :yh_questn<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> I have plenty of whiners & complainers pointing out reasons why my kids can't make it and shouldn't even try. I focus my energy on helping them knock down these fake barriers and developing into responsible, respectable, dependable y...
by DrJ
Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:31 am
Forum: Conspiracy Theories
Topic: America Had Better Wake Up!!!
Replies: 197
Views: 32113

America Had Better Wake Up!!!

<t>Congrats,,, people,, I like how all our differences are all the same on every thread!<br/> <br/> I understand why the people who have done well since 9/11 would fall right in line with the truth proven up to now,,, you have to admit we all were in shock enough to be fooled..<br/> <br/> Jester's r...

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