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<t>i know some philosophers asked questions like why do we exist or do we exist? some thought that we (he) does not exist this is just a dream and they died with these weird ideas i wonder did they ever had idea what will be waiting for them 
 
there was someone that i knew told me that he ...

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<t>Daniyal;917607 wrote: First I'm Not Christian Overstand , The Helping Hand Everyone Looking For Is At The End Of One Own Arm . Not Some Made Book Ok . Now Back To The Above Post , According To Your Own Qur'aan Isa Son Of Mary Is The God Of The Qur'aan . 
 
To Answer Your Other Question ...

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<t>Daniyal;915948 wrote: ( Qur'anic Quotes On The Messiah Hesus ) The Messiah Jesus Is Glorified In The Qur'an More Than Any Other Prophet. He Is Mentioned In 15 Chapters. One Of The More Common Titles For The Messiah Jesus Is '' Son Of Mary ''. He Is Mentioned 15 Times As Isa Ibn Maryam ( Jesus ...

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<t>Daniyal;915116 wrote: Question If I May . 
 
Is Isa Son Of Maryam The God Of The Qur'aan ? 
 
 
Isa, you mean Jesus is just a man not a God or son of a God He is a one of the 4 greatest prophets 
 
according to Quran ; One day Angel Gabriel came to Mary who never ...

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<t>Daniyal;912491 wrote: Any reader of The Qur'aan that is familiar with the old testament , Or the new testament , Discovers that the names and events of the books and prophets have been definitely copied in The Qur'aan . I will now prove that the muslims teaching / language was copied from The Old ...

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<t>Ted;912480 wrote: Clover:-6 
 
I'm happy to see you back. However, you have still not answered the questions I've asked. 
 
Does Islam condone the killing of innocent women, children and men? Does Islam condone suicide bombing? 
 
If there is to be no compulsion in a ...

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<t>Daniyal;912117 wrote: This Was Question The Above Post Asking Anyway 
 
 
 
So Your Muslim Yes . So Tell Me This Where Did The Teaching Of Islam Come From ?? Now Think Before You Speak . By The Way Nice Side Steping . 
 
 
OK, 
 
THERE IS NO GOD BUT GOD ...

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<t>Daniyal;911630 wrote: Where Does The Bible Fit In All This Scientific Data , , Which Is Dis-Proing Its ?Where does the bible fit in all this scientific data, Which is Dis-Proving It's Validity ? If you look at the construction of the bible . You can see that it was written by four different ...

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<t>Daniyal;911516 wrote: Like I Said And the answer is in post 162 By the way ... 
 
 
 
Belief & Believe" are two of the most deceptive words in religion. Belief is ignorance. Belief is to ignore the facts, intentionally or ignorantly. If one has to believe, it means he or she does ...

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<t>Daniyal;911207 wrote: Are you did was side step the question like most believer do ! 
 
 
I dont try to ignore any possible question but that question is meaningless 
 
do you beleive in God exist? or just because of you could not find the answer you have just asked then ...

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<t>Daniyal;907988 wrote: The question should be where did god come from ? 
 
( So Then Where Did God Come From ?) 
 
The Biblical Concepts Of God Was Created In The Hearts And Minds Of Their Authors And As These Authors Became Aithentic , Their Documents Became Authentic And With ...

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<t>Ted;888836 wrote: Clover:-6 
 
I think what God wants from us is very clear; justice (distributive) and compassion. Our faith in God is not about right belief. It is about living in a developing transforming relationship with Him/Her. It is not about right doctrine but about trusting in ...

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<t>Ted;888084 wrote: Clover:-6 
 
I too really believe in my faith-Christianity though I also accept the validity of all of the great faiths. Each religion is a product of the history, culture, knowledge base, experiences of each area of the world. 
 
I do not believe in nor do I ...

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Ted;888077 wrote: Clover:-6

BTW I ask the same question of members of all the great faiths.

Shalom

Ted:-6

which question?

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<t>Ted;888069 wrote: Clover:-6 
 
I understand what you are saying but I strongly disagree. The Christian Bible claims to be the word of God just as the Qur'an claims to be the word of Allah. Other sacred writings also make the same claim. You are making the same claims that other faiths ...

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<t>Ted;887152 wrote: Lon:-6 
 
That idea of fear in religion is what scares me. Using fear to get someone to believe in your way is wrong. 
 
Shalom 
 
Ted:-6 
 
 
Hi Ted 
 
I understand what you say but people dont realize the big threat 
<br ...

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<t>watermark;887185 wrote: [QUOTE=cloverleaf;886513] 
 
Hi cloverleaf- 
 
I'll try to answer this. I never understood what the Christian belief says about life after death except that 1) this life on earth is our one and only life 2) If we believe that Jesus is our Lord and Saviour ...

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<t>YZGI;886997 wrote: [quote=cloverleaf;886512] 
 
You need to ask yourself the same questions. 
 
 
 
What if you are wrong? 
 
 
Yes i do ask those questions to myself always because i am always worrying about my life after death 
 
what do you find ...

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<t>watermark;886497 wrote: [QUOTE=JerryG;885928] 
 
 
 
Hi JerryG- 
 
I was under the impression from my scant protestant training that we humans were made in God's image (maybe I overstated this using the word vanity) and that we are to worship God in church and/or wherever ...

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<t>JerryG;885915 wrote: [QUOTE=cloverleaf;885787] Do you beleive in religion? I believe in Islam religion and Islam answers many questions that science can not answer. Islam also supports many scientific approaches because there is only one truth about these things. 
 
For sure science can ...

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<t>JerryG;885559 wrote: Many things cannot be proved. Science has come to the conclusion that this universe is only part of the total energy. Dark energy is the answer they give. 
 
Thus this level of physical existence is acknowledged to be only part of the total story. How would we define ...

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<t>JerryG;885286 wrote: Why do we exist? The Universe cycles perpetually. One configuration of the total universe is God alone. Another is a null state where God does not exist but the potential for God does exist. Thus the big cycle is pure nothingness and the singularity of God. 
 
In ...

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yaaarrrgg;880594 wrote: endless fire... perhaps you mean: :-6

why dont you take it serious for once

i am telling you about something that you dont have idea and danger that subject to discuss

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<t>JAB;880362 wrote: After what you posted to me in a pm, you can still ask me this? Not a chance. 
 
 
i did not understand what you meant by saying that 
 
but i dont ask you to give me a chance , i ask you to give to yourself a chance 
 
 
 
i honestly dont ...

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<t>JAB;879572 wrote: I disagree but to each his own I suppose.... 
 
 
I am inviting you to in Islam. 
 
whatever you doubt about Islam including the scientific approaches ask me but try not to reject this offer right away before knowing anything 
 
The God of Islam ...

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There is no God but Allah and Mohammad is the messenger of Allah !

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<t>Ted;879099 wrote: Clover:-6 
 
Everyone is allowed to their opinion even if it is a criticism of others. Everyone, including Muslims are entitled to their opinion. No one is entitled to take the life of another except in self defense. 
 
Shalom 
 
Ted:-6 
 
<br ...

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<t>Ted;878451 wrote: Clover:-6 
 
I see nothing wrong with the secular society. 
 
yes there are many people who dont have religion but they want us to live in their system (democracy etc..) we can do things as much as they let us to do 
 
in islamic countries they let ...

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<t>gmc;876906 wrote: Good points-away to lie down till I get over the shock of agreeing with you. 
 
Let's assume for a moment god doesn't exist. Christianity and islam are minor religious cults tolerated by a secular society. Would there be any conflict in the middle east? 
 
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<t>:-3Ted;875925 wrote: Clover:-6 
 
Thanks for your response. 
 
I am one who believes that Allah/God has spoken to all people in a way they could best understand. Culture, history, language and knowledge background all influence this. Thus I accept the validity of all of the world ...

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<t>Ted;875849 wrote: Clover:-6 
 
Of course you do not have to respect his cursing your faith. On the other hand he does not have to respect Christianity being cursed either. 
 
Could you please give me the Qur'an reference for killing someone because they have spoken ill of the ...

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<t>ezanee;874487 wrote: hey cloverfield, 
 
dont get me wrong..l like islam religion, going to revert to islam soon enough, l m studying it, most people hear about islam but they dont want to research it, for me i know islam from the Quran and the Hadith, its wonderful..not thru the ...

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<t>ezanee;874474 wrote: everything looks complicated now if we think about god. god itself is beyond our imagination. 
 
it's easier to beleive that god is there, somebody became his messenger, told us that god exists and He wants us to do this and that- this gives purposes to our life isnt ...

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<t>Richard Bell;868699 wrote: I often wonder why we created God, at least in the skewed, wacky, and outright dangerous versions that have seemed to caught on with an alarming number of the world's populace. 
 
 
if we dont know about existence of God we would have two options one is ...

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<r>Ted; 
 
I should tell you that i dont want to punish jester because of he does not beleive in islam or prophet of islam , honestly i dont much care about what he beleives 
 
but i dont have to respect his cursing to my religion right? i dont have to stand by his calling my ...

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Jab

i dont understand what you mean

if you dont tolarete something that you dont like you have to fight for it

that s what i meant

cloverleaf

jester you re really idiot

anyway i ignore you from now on

cloverleaf

<t>you just should tolerate islam because of many people who are beleiving in islam and its prophet like we do 
 
you can count your experiences about muslims or bad things about them but there are millions of christian that they did same or worst things in history even now or should i ...

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<t>i think we re not speaking same language 
 
becuase you dont understand what i say or you dont want to understand 
 
you re sounding like you re a blood drinker flesh eater crusader when you re talking about islam 
 
you can not say prophet of islam is a thug etc. dont ...

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<t>I am not scared from your talking at all 
 
why would i be scared? 
 
the thing that i dont like is 
 
you re cursing my religion my prophet (who is the one that my #1 love) you probably love same Jesus. 
 
unfortnunately i cant punish you when you say ...

cloverleaf

you are a schizophrenic maniac

stay away from me

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<t>bryn mawr 
 
how can you explain that jews killed Jesus , they crucified him. how is that possible that human can torture a God? (God bled ?) 
 
you christians say that Jesus died and then he was revived? even for few day did God die? 
 
God sent messengers (prophets ...

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<t>jester you re talkin like i am asking you to accept islam 
 
just respect it 
 
and whole things that you wrote about muslims like they roll heads rape children and burn them ..... 
 
where that happened? 
 
and i can guratee that i can show you more massacres ...

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<t>I am just wondering that people who call Jesus as God 
 
Can Jesus create a world like we live in? 
 
if he can, what happens what if God does not want what jesus want? 
 
who is real God? 
 
do they call Jesus as God just because he did not have father?<br ...

cloverleaf

Jester you can beleive whatever you want to beleive but you cant curse someone else's religion or his holies

i hope you understand

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Adam's God, Abraham's God , Moses Jesus's and Mohammad's god

is that weird that God wants to talk to human?

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<t>actually all stories about old religion groups in all holy books that came from one real God to human being through prophets are true but i could not remember this one from my book Quran 
 
however this is how i beleive 
 
i dont think anyone has right to judge or ask God ...

cloverleaf

i dont know much about old or new testament or jews book but i can say that as i am a islam beleiver Quran is the completed book of three religions God

what can you tell about baal and old testament and what can you proof ?

cloverleaf

<t>you re not saying anything ! 
 
can you tell me what is proof for you 
 
so that lets speak the same language 
 
what kind of proof is acceptable for you? 
 
positive scientific proof? 
 
social scientific proof? 
 
math proof? 
<br ...

cloverleaf

i dont have to try to proof of existence of God.

for me its so clear

how can you explain it to your self everything that you see if you dont beleive in God or not

what do you think about threatment of hell?

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