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by flja
Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:23 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
Replies: 96
Views: 10730

By Scripture alone?

<t>spot;1247397 wrote: Omnipotence, authority and power-talk have no place in Christianity.<br/>
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You, obviously have no place in Heaven.<br/>
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Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth ...
by flja
Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:12 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
Replies: 96
Views: 10730

By Scripture alone?

<t>gmc;1247145 wrote: posted by fija<br/>
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I never said "I did what I thought was OK because there is no authority that can tell me otherwise ". <br/>
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Yes you did.<br/>
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In post #5 when you declared, “Why should you accept an authority at all? At the end of the ...
by flja
Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:02 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
Replies: 96
Views: 10730

By Scripture alone?

<t>spot;1247058 wrote: I did answer that - "What is authority? The imposition of a set of penalties". <br/>
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It is clear that you are not paying attention to what I am saying. I didn’t ask you what you think authority is. I asked you what authority are you willing to submit to. Someone ...
by flja
Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:47 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
Replies: 96
Views: 10730

By Scripture alone?

<t>spot;1247035 wrote: It's a pity you sidestepped everything I wrote, it all applies equally well to either and it's not a bad statement of why both can sensibly be rejected.<br/>
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Is there anything not of your own device and design that you accept as having authority over your beliefs ...
by flja
Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:36 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
Replies: 96
Views: 10730

By Scripture alone?

<t>gmc;1247015 wrote: posted by fija<br/>
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Of course they are. The point is that the hit man (or the ss guards) cannot claim in his defence he was just following orders. he is responsible for choosing to obey<br/>
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I never said “I was only following orders is a ...
by flja
Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:56 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
Replies: 96
Views: 10730

By Scripture alone?

<t>Bryn Mawr;1246957 wrote: Goodbye - total and utter ignorance deserves no company.<br/>
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Nice. You claim to be a Christian and say I am ignorant because I don’t believe what you believe. But if your Christianity is valid and I am wrong, don’t you have an obligation to present the ...
by flja
Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:45 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
Replies: 96
Views: 10730

By Scripture alone?

<t>Bryn Mawr;1246956 wrote: Not so, it is not a rejection of teaching it is a rejection of intermediation - no man stands between me and my God. It's called taking responsibility for your belief and relying on God to show you the way - or do you not believe Him capable of that?<br/>
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If ...
by flja
Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:41 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
Replies: 96
Views: 10730

By Scripture alone?

<t>spot;1246863 wrote: Your sola Scriptura is a series of dogmatic assertions which are self-evidently untestable.<br/>
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Go back and actually read my first post here. It is not my sola scriptura. The dogma that I posted is based on research as much as it is my personal beliefs. I wanted ...
by flja
Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:33 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
Replies: 96
Views: 10730

By Scripture alone?

<t>gmc;1246859 wrote: If you do believe you will meet your maker and have committed murder in the name of your religion because we someone told you it was OK and you would go to heaven regardless who is still the one that is responsible for the action?<br/>
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The Germans that issued the ...
by flja
Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:02 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
Replies: 96
Views: 10730

By Scripture alone?

<t>Lon;1246764 wrote: The Flat Earth.<br/>
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Aristotle argued for a spherical earth,<br/>
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As does the Bible:<br/>
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Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.<br/>
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The Book of Job declares that the earth is ...
by flja
Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:33 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
Replies: 96
Views: 10730

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<t>Lon;1246764 wrote: The Flat-Earth Bible.<br/>
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1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.<br/>
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Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ...<br/>
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Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ...<br ...
by flja
Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:32 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
Replies: 96
Views: 10730

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Lon;1246738 wrote: I can, but will not.


You can't in other words.
by flja
Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:19 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
Replies: 96
Views: 10730

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<r>Omni_Skittles;1246715 wrote: i believe in sola scriptura. The bible is my all sufficient guide for faith and living <E>:)</E><br/>
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Sola Scriptura<br/>
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I. Scripture is the only complete, inspired, inerrant and infallible authority on the Christian faith. <br/>
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by flja
Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:14 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
Replies: 96
Views: 10730

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Lon;1246673 wrote: There was also internal consistency in a collection of writings that caused people to think that the earth was flat.


Care to give some examples?
by flja
Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:12 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
Replies: 96
Views: 10730

By Scripture alone?

AussiePam;1246667 wrote: I am Christian and I accept the Bible -


Then how can you have any problem with it as per your statement, "Well my biggest problem is that the Bible..."?
by flja
Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:59 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
Replies: 96
Views: 10730

By Scripture alone?

<t>AussiePam;1246626 wrote: My comment was about selective quoting, and you have quoted that comment, selectively.<br/>
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Because I don’t deny the rest of your statement. But the fact that some people manipulate the Bible and misunderstand the Bible (both intentionally and ...
by flja
Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:14 am
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
Replies: 96
Views: 10730

By Scripture alone?

Bryn Mawr;1246444 wrote: Not anarchy - just a different point of view to yours.


The rejection of authority apart from the individual and the philosophy “if it feels good, do it is anarchy.
by flja
Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:13 am
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
Replies: 96
Views: 10730

By Scripture alone?

<t>AussiePam;1246414 wrote: Well my biggest problem is that the Bible is a large collection of writings,<br/>
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So? The internal consistency of this collection of writings made by dozens of people over thousands of years is one of the chief reasons why Christians accept it as a product ...
by flja
Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:56 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
Replies: 96
Views: 10730

By Scripture alone?

<t>AussiePam;1246378 wrote: Meaning probably we're going ad hominem now.. let's not<br/>
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Not really. You can likely better understand what this person is claiming if you understand what his motivation likely is. His rejection of authority in religious matters likely coincides with his ...
by flja
Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:45 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
Replies: 96
Views: 10730

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Bryn Mawr;1246376 wrote: Meaning?


He’s preaching anarchy in typical libertarian fashion.
by flja
Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:43 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
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Views: 10730

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<t>AussiePam;1246368 wrote: If you go with 'sola scriptura' - isn't the real question how trustworthy and infallible the decisions were of that group of men who determined somewhere in the third century which writings were canonical scriptura and which of the many others available were not scriptura ...
by flja
Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:25 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
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Views: 10730

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<t>gmc;1246278 wrote: You tell me. You're the one that believes you will meet your maker some day. Personally I consider "I did what I thought was the right thing thing" is a better defence than "I did what someone told me was the right thing". <br/>
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How do you know that you always did ...
by flja
Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:15 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
Replies: 96
Views: 10730

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<t>hoppy;1246253 wrote: GMC posted: Why should you accept an authority at all? At the end of the day you and only you are responsible for the decisions you make. What makes you think "I was only following orders" will be a good defence at the pearly gates?<br/>
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Do you think "I did what felt ...
by flja
Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:21 pm
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
Replies: 96
Views: 10730

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<t>gmc;1246248 wrote: No it's not. First of all you have to decide if what you are consulting is an authority in the first place and can you trust it in the second. <br/>
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My point is valid for the exact reasons you give that it is not. The more sources of authority you have the less ...
by flja
Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:32 am
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
Replies: 96
Views: 10730

By Scripture alone?

<r>hoppy;1246208 wrote: So, if you buy a new washing machine, how many different manuals do you read, or do you stick to the one that came with it?<EMOJI seq="1f615" tseq="1f615">:confused:</EMOJI><br/>
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Good point. Consulting too many authorities can easily lead to accepting no ...
by flja
Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:13 am
Forum: Christianity
Topic: By Scripture alone?
Replies: 96
Views: 10730

By Scripture alone?

<t>I am trying to decide what I believe about sola Scriptura, i.e., the total and exclusive reliance on Scripture. But first I need to determine exactly what sola Scriptura is and is not. I’ll give here what I have found so far. Please let me know if I have left anything out or have something that ...

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